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an open letter to Sarah Palin regarding her assault on First Lady, Michelle Obama: Madame, Shut The-Hell Up!

Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:32 AM EST
politics, obama, barack-obama, republicans, president, tea-party, sarah-palin, palin, 2012, america, book, michelle-obama, first-lady, wright, michelle, jeremiah-wright, proud, tea-bagger, reverend-wright, america-by-heart
By Rick Basora

Deception wears glasses.

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Dear Mrs. Palin,

I had concluded that your "Pippi Longstockings" statesmanship and protozoan intellect could become no more meager. Nevertheless, yesterday your “lame-stream” media buzzed with the news that, in writing your latest book, “America by Heart,” you had, in fact, sunk to a new Sour Palin low by attacking our First Lady for comments that she made during the 2008 Presidential campaign; comments that America confirmed, with the election of her husband, were words conveniently taken out of context by the likes of YOU.

These, My Dear Mrs. Palin, were Michelle Obama's exact words at the time. Read them. I know how you loathe reading...but READ THEM and then, read them again, Madame.

"What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something--for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction, and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."

Nowhere in that statement of wide-eyed, hopeful expectation, do you see a single reference to her husband's winning of elections, nor do you find hints of religious rhetoric. Neither can you point to one trace of racial hatred nor disdain for the country that both, she and now President Barack Obama, were selflessly seeking to serve.

As you peruse the text, I will remind, if not educate you, that it was her husband that on May 3rd, 2007, required that a Secret Service security detail be assigned to him by the Secretary of The Department of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, NINE MONTHS before voting had even begun in the 2008 Presidential Primaries; earlier than any other candidate IN HISTORY. The reason? Barack Obama is a Black man. While your trademark shallowness precludes you from such transcendental thought, the imaginations of many an American turned to what must have been, in those days, a poignant and sobering discussion at the Obama dinning-room table. Was it worth it, with two little girls who slept innocently in a room down the hall, to pursue this office that could cost Daddy his life? The question must have been made more compelling by the couple's awareness that their Harvard Law degrees, all but guaranteed a future of uncommon affluence for the family? What, then, could have been the only driving motivation for the two to agree with moving forward for America, despite very real mortal peril? Only to you would this appear to be a rhetorical question. Only you, and your toxic kind, find yourselves beneath the paramount answer. This, "Barracuda," is because your predator-like insensitivity renders you incapable of ever having considered the question. Instead, you invented an "alternative" reality that you frantically wish could be as real as you've made it in your twisted and megalomaniacal mind.

"Certainly his wife expressed this view when she said during the 2008 campaign that she had never felt proud of her country until her husband started winning elections. In retrospect, I guess this shouldn't surprise us, since both of them spent almost two decades in the pews of the Reverend Jeremiah Wright's church listening to his rants against America and white people."

While your hyperbolic vitriol is irrelevant to the facts of history, allow me to further educate you, and your bevy of belligerent bigots, with regards to the reality of the themes that you allude to. Probably the single most important journalistic piece that was ever published with regard to Obama's former minister, Jeremiah Wright, was written by Frank Schaeffer, son of Conservative Christian Right leader, Francis Schaeffer. It opens with the following statement.

"When Senator Obama's preacher thundered about racism and injustice, Obama suffered smear-by-association. But when my late father, Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer, denounced America and even called for the violent overthrow of the US government, he was invited to lunch with presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush, Sr."

While your "cheap" and redundant assault on Mrs. Obama was wholly uncalled for, I do appreciate the opportunity that it provides to showcase the hypocrisy of your pseudo-Christian minions, in the words of one who did, in fact, sit in the pews of iniquity and who was freed from the belly of THE BEAST by the celestial call of "conscience." To what, North Star, do you attribute the diametrically opposite reactions by "the establishment," to the Liberation Theologies of each of these equally ordained ministers? If you put down "the Blackberry" in favor of a moment of rare reflection, you may arrive at an explanation for the dramatic double-standard. Most already have. Yes. You can do it! Say the words. One is Black. One is White. However, be that as it may, allow me to enlighten you with a glance back into America's sordid history. The difference between Francis Schaeffer's and Jeremiah Wright's kind of Theologies, Mrs. Palin, is that Wright's left NO BODY COUNT. The revelations contained in young Frank Shaeffer's narrative, therefore, relegate your statement against The Obama's, to the realm of social poisons.

Madame, your ubiquitous ignorance is equaled only by your meteoric rise to fame on the shoulders of the galactically stupid. It has, as you know, earned you your very own Palin's Greatest Hits collection. Therefore, as I watched the trailer for "Sarah Palin's Alaska," I was struck by your euphoric comment of "I'd rather be doing this than in some stuffy old political office." You know, it is something that you may want to consider, instead of public office. Playing "Smoochie-Moose" in the wild does not require that you know who The Founding Fathers were or that Africa is a continent. In fact, it would prevent political satirists from declaring you "a category 5 moron." Being filmed in the role of "Rugged Wilderness-Woman" would never put you in a position where you would have to explain what on earth, in our government is The White House Department of Law! Your Intellectual Quotient (your I.Q., Mrs. Palin...) may not matter to your neo-Conservative puppeteers. To most of us, though, it is nearly as offensive as your having recently asked Alaskans "if they were even fit to tie his (Joe Miller's) combat boots." It speaks to the infinitely flawed judgment and indigent values of one found GUILTY of abuse of power, as Governor of Alaska. Having later walked out on those that elected you to that charge, merely proves that, in addition, you have no "WORD." You know, Mrs. Palin, according to many close to you, it was GREED that inspired you to abandon your Governorship. I was particularly impressed by young Levi Johnston when he declared, in a televised interview, that he would not trust you with the Presidency of The United States because you would likely do with that mandate, what you did with the Governorship of Alaska. You truly are a cartoon, Mrs. Palin, but given your reputation in Wasilla, many of us ask ourselves, "Why does the Johnston boy now need a body-guard?"

Being the POTUS, Mrs. Palin, requires levels of CLASS, decorum and "principal" that you have been denied. If you had any of these, you would have referred to Mrs. Obama in the same manner that she referred to you, even as she was well aware, as are most Americans, of the ethical and mental "midget" that you are. You see, when asked by Larry King about what she thought of you, she spared you the scrutiny of a successful Harvard Law grad whose "stature" as a LADY made her attractive to the man that would, one day, be our President. She simply said, "I don't know her" and refused to be persuaded to comment further. You would think that in one of the most educated countries in the world, these things would suffice to keep you in that place where we store the comedic and the inconsequential; but I suppose that, as long as there are old Republican men that you can bring to a drool..., along with a mindless menopausal minion of misery ripe for deception..., plus the likes of one Rush Limbaugh who you may "winky-blink" to wild and rhythmic flatulence as he does "The Gorillimbaugh" (or was that "The Limbanzee"...) and a galaxy of prodigiously stupid voters, The World must remain in apprehension of the dread that can only be found in the words "President Palin."

A multitude of us read the Vanity Fair article, "Sarah Palin: The Sound and The Fury," that caused you to appear on Sean Hannity's radio show to "Palinize" its author, Michael Joseph Gross, behind Hannity's wood-shed. Madame, you referred to him as "a limp, impotent coward!" The incident's irony isn't in your having verbally assaulted a man that wrote with what pundits (both Left and Right) agreed was "no axe to grind." It isn't in the fact that he wrote for a non-political / non-partisan journal. Neither can it be found in Gross' treatment of your dysfunctional existence, even with what bordered on compassion. The irony lies in the question that keeps popping up whenever the subject of the words that you chose for "the lambasting" is breached; ...limp, impotent... "How would you know that, Mrs. Palin?"

As many Americans, still in possession of the faculty of DECENCY, regard your assault on The First Lady, we are faced with a mental "comparison," between the two of you, that you have forced upon us. It then becomes abundantly clear WHY it is that she enjoys a 65% approval rate amongst our countrymen, while yours, today, grovels with that of fungal-foot-paste, at 39%. You would have probably fared better if you would have just put your unique and distinctive voice to task, and simply screamed at her, "I'll get you, My Pretty, and your little dog too." America would have likely found you amusing. After all, the last time we heard that voice, it was 1939 and it came from a hag who drove a broom with flying monkeys. Ours just has a plane. But no, you had to try the non-extreme, quietly reasonable people of our country; those with NO TEABAGS dangling from hats and no sense of "color" to their vision of humanity. Your words imposed upon us your nefariously divisive, unacceptably disrespectful and insulting rant...and in that grimace-inducing voice of yours, that we cannot seem to evade even when just reading your words, you dishonored one who enjoys the affection, respect, gratitude and approval of 2/3 of the American people. I, for one, paired you both, side by side, and considered for a moment that if your physical statures would be equal to the heights of your substance, your head, Mrs. Palin, would smell like feet.

Therefore, before you further offend my fellow countrymen, a FIRST LADY who we CHOOSE to hold in ultimate regard, the integrity of TRUTH, the dignity of our nations highest offices... and me; Madame, SHUT THE HELL UP!

Sincerely,

Rick F. Basora

A parenthetic note: Sarah Louise, you have a beautiful family. Neglect them no more. Embarrass them no further.

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Rick Basora

While the subject of this article may invoke impassioned commentaries and opinions, the thread of dialogue will be conducted under strict CoH. Violations will be promtly deleted.

  • 48 votes
#1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:37 AM EST
sebastianoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Ho-Hum. Another lib hissy fit over Sarah here on the vine. Dullsville

  • 29 votes
#1.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:13 AM EST
Lola-984242

Sarah Palin herself should be on "Skating with the Stars" because of her spinning ability, she'd win hands down.

  • 43 votes
#1.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:13 AM EST
StevG-144

Putting things in perspective, the creed of the republican party his fear, lies, hate, and innuendo, so any thing they do will carry at least one or more of the four. Basically all this is, is more Moose Droppings from Palin, who leans toward lies, and hate. Her attach's usually comes with misquotes, to stir the hate pot, and is basically one of the biggest jokes to hit the political scene, at least till this last election. I hope she runs and wins the nomination for president form the republicans in 2012, so the democrats get four more years in the White House

  • 35 votes
#1.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:15 AM EST
bloozbro

Rick Basora - Well done. It is too bad that some that are bashing you and Mrs. Obama here have failed their reading comprehension tests and only see what they want to see.

  • 48 votes
#1.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:56 AM EST
obie-one

Nicely stated, Rick Basora. However though not long winded for the subject mattter at hand it is entirely too long for Sarah and most of her Boo Boo bears to even attempt at reading and there are too many multiple syllable words for them to ever sound them out; which I fear will prevent them from first reading in its entirety or comprehending if they did. For me though it is entirely dead on and speaks much to what Sister Sarah is all about. Well done.........If ya don't mind failin' there's always Sarah Palin............Some may find this as arrogance from a left sided view when in reality it is ignorance from a right sided over sight.............

  • 44 votes
#1.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:59 AM EST
Mike-2260639

Rick Basora,

Excellent letter, Rick.

  • 34 votes
#1.6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:00 AM EST
StevG-144

sebastiano #1.1

Ho-Hum. Another lib hissy fit over Sarah here on the vine. Dullsville

You can lead the blind to a lamp, but they will never see the light.

  • 33 votes
#1.7 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:23 AM EST
Rick Basora

Thanks you guys. You have me in stitches. My wife was reading your comments, yours particularly obie-one, and exclaimed "You see...You see, I told you that if she got your letter, she'd be back to mincin' moose-meat by the middle of the 2nd paragraph!" (LMAO)!

  • 28 votes
#1.8 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:04 PM EST
NativeAmerican-1289371

Therefore, in conclusion: STFU Caribou Barbie and go back to Wasilla to take care of your baby and run the family meth lab!

  • 27 votes
#1.9 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:25 PM EST
edward j-1337034

Rick Basora

Well said sir.

now if only someone could read it for the mouth almighty and translate the big words for her,*sign*

  • 28 votes
#1.10 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:22 PM EST
Steve-2081387

StevG

Putting things in perspective, the creed of the democrat party his fear, lies, hate, and innuendo, so any thing they do will carry at least one or more of the four. Basically all this is, is more Moose Droppings from Dems, who leans toward lies, and hate.

Sounds pretty ridiculous no matter which side says it doesnt it.

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:39 PM EST
kj031056-1

Great letter......and I agree with you, $arah Palin and her family, don't appear to have much class or decorum.....

  • 27 votes
#1.12 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:05 PM EST
sarg-2693752Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

No class or decorum? What happens to freedom of speech. She can write or say what she wants. If we don't like it - don't buy it. Don't have to agree with her views or like her or her views. But the tirade against her speaking her mind is quite comical. Rick Basora - your tirades and insults are even more extreme than hers. So class and decorum......hmmmmm

  • 14 votes
#1.13 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:14 PM EST
Lola-984242

No class or decorum? What happens to freedom of speech. She can write or say what she wants. If we don't like it - don't buy it. Don't have to agree with her views or like her or her views.

Saying that Sarah Palin has no class or decorum doesn't mean she should not be allowed freedom of speech. However, it does open the flood gates to those who "tirade" against her speaking her mind. They also have the right to express their dislike for her and/or wishing she'd shut up. But remember sarg-2693752, freedom of speech goes both ways. She can write what she wants and we can say what we want, whether we like it/her or dislike it/her.

  • 30 votes
#1.14 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:29 PM EST
Dennis Kemmerer

sarg-2693752 wrote:

No class or decorum? What happens to freedom of speech. She can write or say what she wants.

I absolutely agree that Palin has the right to continue to be a classless, ignorant, disrespectful rambling ditz.

  • 42 votes
#1.15 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:29 PM EST
Fletch2-1565982

In other words, it's ok for Sarah to twist words and lie about other people. That is called freedom of speech. If someone else points her out to be the liar that she is, its a call for attack.

I understand why she now has to attack the First Lady again. It's become a way of life for people like her. They use lies to gain wealth on the backs of their lemmings. If what she wrote is speaking her mind, it's a rather telling what her mind is.

Unfortunately, she has put her family in the limelight and they don't show very well.

  • 34 votes
#1.16 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:48 PM EST
Rick Basora

As we contemplate the difference between the letter of the law and the SPIRIT of the law, we must temper the right of Freedom of Speech with the prioritizing of National Security and wellbeing. The day that this concept eludes the masses, will mark the first day of a countdown to a government of mindless Tyrrany or the disassembly of the Republic.

  • 25 votes
#1.17 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:57 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Mr. Basora.

Well stated, sir.

Friend request sent, and article clipped to my column.

Thank you.

  • 20 votes
#1.18 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:03 PM EST
Mike Rupert

Sarah Palin is a sociopath. It's exactly what this type loves to do: create chaos. It's their MO.

sopathicstyle.com/

  • 28 votes
#1.19 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:19 PM EST
TruettCollins

Hey let her keep talking, it seems people are finally starting to get their eyes open to the FACT that the Republicans got into office in the mid terms based on lies, slanders, and that too many people didn't want to hear facts but took those lies and the slander as fact at the polls, I would hope that by the time of the next elections people will have grown up enough to look into what they are told and if they do, Palin will be the reason, after listening to her for so long maybe they will gain the ability to see through all the crap.

  • 17 votes
#1.20 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:33 PM EST
badchessExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Ho hum, once again the left shows it's disdain for free speech it disagrees with.

  • 8 votes
#1.21 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:44 PM EST
Rick Basora

Dennis P. McCann - OK, I'm going to have a liberal "sapping-out." Check your list of friends. You were one of the very first people that, as a newbie, I sheepishly requested as a friend. You accepted and, in doing so, gave me a reason to think that maybe I could fit in. In fact, I showed my wife your picture because we have the same beard. I'll share a really silly secret. I pretended to have a brother. OK! OK! I never said I was smart or normal! Just friendly and fiercely protective of America. So you see, we've been friends all along. Thank you. I'm humbled.

  • 20 votes
#1.22 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:24 PM EST
Therese Nelson

Wow, this article is hateful.

  • 17 votes
#1.23 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:36 PM EST
CynicL1

Ok folks: What Rick said! Well stated sir, well stated indeed. More than the Half Governor deserves mind you but well done none the less.

  • 16 votes
#1.24 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:39 PM EST
Smc31569

Therese... yeah, it's WONDERFUL isn't it ????

  • 7 votes
#1.25 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:03 PM EST
Chunky-Monkey

Freedom of Speech

  • 6 votes
#1.26 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:12 PM EST
Rahlly

Therese,

This isn't an article. It is an opinion, the Opinion of Rick Basora. It is not hateful because no where does he verbally abuse her n or denigrate her. He points out her actions which he deems objectionable and he points out where she was wrong. But he does not attack her, only her actions and ::cough:: policies.

This opinion might be in a fine fettle, but he does not express hate. Although he does mention how her voice affects him, sorry but if it affects him like that it does, he's talking about his reaction to her voice, not her voice itself.

Rick,

Keep it up. Print this and send it to her and let's see if she sends you a form letter.

FR sent, voice of reason!

  • 25 votes
#1.27 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:44 PM EST
Big Al-369306Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

It's hateful period

  • 6 votes
#1.28 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:48 PM EST
js-445607

Rahlly right on target as usual! Thanks. I also found no hate in Rick's writing but I did find a lot of fodder for thought and isn't that what we come here for in the first place. When a poster announces

Wow, this article is hateful.

in a one liner without explanation of why this is thought about the article gives me cause to wonder...

  • 26 votes
#1.29 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:50 PM EST
Stand up, speak out

Thanks you guys. You have me in stitches.

Stitches, you're in stitches?

"The Gorillimbaugh" (or was that "The Limbanzee"

  • 6 votes
#1.30 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:53 PM EST
Stand up, speak out

obie-one

.........If ya don't mind failin' there's always Sarah Palin

Does this mean you're entitled to slogan rights? Oopsie, I used the e-word.

  • 6 votes
#1.31 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:01 PM EST
Rahlly

Why is it hateful because it says that he doesn't like what she did or how she does it. Because he points out her wrongs and tells her to act like an adult... if this opinion is so full of hate, point it out so we can see it clearly. But if what you point out isn't hate on the part of Rick, then you should apologize.

  • 18 votes
#1.32 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:05 PM EST
jwtiii

But how about Todd's being a registered member of the Alaskan Independence Party? How anti-American is that?

  • 12 votes
#1.33 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:47 PM EST
robin-6

Most Excellent Rick!! Bravo! Standing Ovation!

Rick's letter wasn't about hate, it's about disgust for a disgusting lowlifer that'll take cheap shots whenever she can. SHE's the one who is full of hate.

In this case, Sarah Synthetic Slithering Spout could not take the garbage out!

  • 14 votes
#1.34 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:52 PM EST
Stand up, speak out

If only, and it's a big if, she would take the time to read Rick's piece, I would love to be a fly on the wall to see her reaction. Now, as for her reading the comments, I would give everything the GOP has taken from me already to see her reaction to them.

  • 9 votes
#1.35 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:05 PM EST
davetopper

As pictures go of Sarah this is precious.

We have all seen this look before, it is the scolded child right before the hissy fit. Her cheerleaders are something else altogether. Why they do it I have no idea.

She epitomizes the inadequacy of self importance.

  • 11 votes
#1.36 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:42 PM EST
Stand up, speak out

Your's is good but Rick's is the hands down winner by far. I've saved them both for future use.

  • 8 votes
#1.37 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:54 PM EST
FRED-1090120

Well this seed tells you how popular Sarah Palin is and unpopular Michelle Obama is, buy the way were is Michelle?, on vacation?,ah, is she at home?, ah, is she over seas?, well where's Barak?, but for sure everyone knows where Sarah Palin is, and what she says, where shes been, and where she is going, Have a Good Day.

    #1.38 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:01 PM EST
    Stand up, speak out

    Wow Fred, man. I've read some pretty stupid posts of yours but this one is good.

    • 11 votes
    #1.39 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:12 PM EST
    FRED-1090120

    I'm glad you enjoyed it.

      #1.40 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:29 PM EST
      agagnu

      It follows that the Editor of the book to be published must be scrutinized word for word phrase by phrase; if the publisher's reputation means anything.

      The lack of grace, the wife of Palin, the skin-deep beauty, shows the ugly vile inner truth reflected from the mirror mirror on the wall, WHO IS THE UGLIEST OF THEM ALL.

      • 3 votes
      #1.41 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:36 PM EST
      Stand up, speak out

      You're welcome.

      • 3 votes
      #1.42 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:39 PM EST
      FRED-1090120

      agagnu

      ah, you?

        #1.43 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:41 PM EST
        FRED-1090120

        Hey Vinners out there,

        I have a question for you, and I need a honest opinion, who is better looking, Michelle Obama or Sarah Palin, now be honest, and keep your political affiliation aside, and hurry up before they tell me to take my question elswhere.

        • 3 votes
        #1.44 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:45 AM EST
        Stand up, speak out

        WTFC's ?

        • 8 votes
        #1.45 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:51 AM EST
        FRED-1090120

        Stand up,speak out,

        that must be a vote for Sarah Palin, right.

        • 1 vote
        #1.46 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:01 AM EST
        wilgramax

        Well done Rick Basora!!! It would take three days to for me to vote your article up the appropriate number of times. Telling it is that those who disagree with you have been unable to present a single substantive counter-argument to your points. Their braindead responses of:

        1. Who is better looking?
        2. Sarah Palin has free speech rights doesn't she?
        3. You liberals are mean
        4. Sarah Palin is more popular than Michelle Obama
        5. This article is hateful

        are all testimony to the truth of your open letter.

        Deflection is the first and last resort for the intellectually bankrupt.

        • 16 votes
        #1.47 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:45 AM EST
        Stand up, speak out

        Fred, anyone with an intellect higher than Sarahs would be able to figure out what Wh. t.. f... c...s? means. She does nothing for me but feel free do whatever you want with her in your demented mind.

        • 5 votes
        #1.48 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:11 AM EST
        The_Matrix_Has_You

        FRED-1090120

        I'll bite... I will say Mrs.Obama but then again my wife is black & I have always been attracted to black women... I am only gonna admit this because my wife is not on here, When I first saw Palin I thought she was pretty hot but then I heard her speak & boom all attraction went out the Window. If I can't see myself holding a convo with you for more then 2 seconds I loose all attraction.. I have to be able to have a deep, intelligent convo to nourish the attraction, one of the main reason celebrities never keep me attracted for to long. They may look good in the movies or on the magazine covers, they may play a character that appeals to me but at the end of the day I don't know who they really are so the attraction fades as fast as a T-shirt purchased from Wal mart.

        Now by the Way W.T.F.C = Who The (Pick an F word) Cares, which is actually much more relevant then your question to begin with. So troll consider yourself Fed

        • 9 votes
        #1.49 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:13 AM EST
        Dr. Riccardo Privitera

        TO RICK BASORA

        Excellent work, beautifully written and far too complex for Sara Palin's limited Populist intellect. I am sending a friends request, and you are most welcome to my column, I wrote an article on Sara Palin, but is really very good indeed. Keep writing.

        • 12 votes
        #1.50 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:49 AM EST
        Rainkiss

        Well said, Rick.

        • 10 votes
        #1.51 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:22 AM EST
        Rahlly

        I still haven't gotten one of her apologists to explain to me exactly how Rick was mean or cruel or abusive or in any way haterful to Palin in this letter. Probably because he wasn't. He did not rip on her but her actions and policies.

        • 12 votes
        #1.52 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:57 PM EST
        Rainkiss

        You don't understand, Rahlly. If you utter ANYTHING critical of Palin or her family (even saying, for example, that Bristol dances as gracefully as a pregnant rhino... which she does, or that Willow is a rude, nasty child for slinging around insults on Facebook), you're mean, vicious, nasty, evil, and undeserving of basic human rights.

        • 15 votes
        #1.53 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:17 PM EST
        Patricia Baker

        Rick this letter and writing about Palin is great! Lordy Clordy! If the President's daughters got pregnant or got drunk like the Bush' girls the cats and dogs of politics would be gnashing their jaws. And the Obamas said nary a word.

        Palin needs to leave the First Lady alone and hopefully, she will find Russia.

        • 13 votes
        #1.54 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:47 PM EST
        Stand up, speak out

        Lordy Clordy? Anyways, I bet even though B-S can see Russia she still couldn't find it.

        • 6 votes
        #1.55 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:51 PM EST
        Rahlly

        I can't help it Rain, I tend to be somewhat... ummm rational! I like proof before I convict people.

        • 6 votes
        #1.56 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:00 PM EST
        David-1830107

        So I guess She was not proud to be an American Cause citizens voted her husbands gang out of office a few weeks ago? In hope of change?

        • 1 vote
        #1.57 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:52 PM EST
        Rahlly

        David, you are so wrong it's unbelievable.

        She said she was happy to see involvement and excitement. What I saw earlier this month was anger and hatred. I'm sure she's proud that people got involved and I'm sure she's disgusted with the venom, cruelty, despicable behavior, and total disregard for humanity that was present in the last election.

        And if you wish to consider any political party a gang, please look at the indictments, convictions, and prison terms of the republican party which looks more and more like the mafia.

        • 6 votes
        #1.58 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:26 PM EST
        Larry-1857406

        Great letter Rick.

        I voted you up so consider me signing it along with you.

        • 7 votes
        #1.59 - Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:20 PM EST
        Dee-1100246

        Thanks Rick, I am so glad you wrote this, and I had a chance to read it. I have been saying Shut Up to Sarah Palin since she was running for VP with her BS and her false accounting of history and geography. She comes across like a flippin' moron.

        • 7 votes
        #1.60 - Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:39 AM EST
        Rick Basora

        Hello Dee-1100246. Actually, writing this letter was a moral imperrative. This is the United States of America. We may not be perfect, but despite an apathetic and woefully uninformed and misinformed electorate, this nation deserves better than having the likes of a Sarah Palin anywhere close to "the controls." As you can see from the thread that gathered around the theme, there are many that feel as you and I do. The troubling part, however, are those oblivious to her corrupt reality. There are many here shouldering the task of attemting to educate "the educatable" so as to avoid a repeat of 2010 in 2012...or MUCH WORSE.

        Your voice is welcomed and I am humbly at your service.

        • 7 votes
        #1.61 - Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:54 AM EST
        Rick Basora

        Hi Larry-1857406. Sorry I didn't reply to you sooner. The "tracker" must have had one of those "seizures." I did, however respond to your poignant commentary of today, as post #87.10. I left you a little "bonus" that you will find to be quite the eye-opener. Two years ago, on October 15th, 2008, just before the Presidential election, a psychological "profile" study was performed on Sarah Palin. It was carried out by former fundamentalist,Dr. Marlene Winnell; a PhD in Psychology who had grown up as the daughter of an Assembly of God minister of Sarah Palin's church. I've provided you with a link to her ALARMING findings and to the subsequent letter that she wrote to the former Governor. Let me know what you think. Enjoy the read and ponder the outcome.

        • 7 votes
        #1.62 - Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:18 AM EST
        Dee-1100246

        Rick have you thought of posting this artcle to her Facebook page?

        • 6 votes
        #1.63 - Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:49 AM EST
        Larry-1857406

        Let me know what you think.

        Thanks Rick. I will.

        • 5 votes
        #1.64 - Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:54 AM EST
        mytimetospeakout

        Mrs. Obama said it all with class and grace when asked what she thought of Mrs. Palin; "I don't know her."

        • 10 votes
        #1.65 - Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:49 AM EST
        Rick Basora

        Hello, mytimetospeakout. Your thoughtful statement is my reason for always having felt such a degree of admiration, respect and affection for Michelle. I am a rather critical man, not easily moved to such praises, perhaps because I am beholden to values from a bygone era. However, with as much love as I have for America, she is what I had hoped that our nation's womanhood would be represented by before the world itself. Rarely does such a "class-act" make an appearance on the world stage. Maybe if we embrace her long enough, we may ourselves return to the state of a nation of wisdom, compassion and of inauspicious dignity. To me, she is the very best of all of us and, what's more, she need not pretend to be what she legitimately is; A LADY.

        Therefore Palin's undignified meagerness, screamed to be engaged and called by its name. In writing this open letter to her, I did my very best to do JUST THAT.

        • 8 votes
        #1.66 - Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:43 AM EST
        mytimetospeakout

        Mrs. Obama deserves our Nation's respect, as does her husband, our President. Those who choose to be disrespectful to the Office and the First Lady do so as a slur to our Nation.

        Mrs. Palin is a thorn in the side of America and to the detriment of us all.

        I admire Mrs. Obama's restraint.

        • 10 votes
        #1.67 - Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:51 AM EST
        Vooda

        Rick.......love it, great piece!

        mytimetospeakout....well said.

        • 4 votes
        #1.68 - Sun Dec 5, 2010 11:55 AM EST
        mytimetospeakout

        Vooda..truth is truth, thanks. I will never understand her supporters...that is a relief!

        • 3 votes
        #1.69 - Sun Dec 5, 2010 10:04 PM EST
        Rick Basora

        Hello Vooda. Thank you, My Friend, and WELCOME. Hi mytime. Good to see you. I've asked other remarkable participants in this forum to move the discussion to the end of the thread, on page 5, so that we all may benefit from one anothers commentaries. I would like to invite you to do the same as you have valid opinions that MUST be heard. I just posted a commentary with some links that you might find of interest. They showcase just how RADICALIZED Palin really is and why we MUST combine our voting efforts to ensure that she does NOT force-feed us her twisted agenda. See you there folks!

        • 5 votes
        #1.70 - Mon Dec 6, 2010 9:31 AM EST
        ReyRik

        Rick, an excellent letter. Such truth and perpetual understanding.

        You have left me speechless.

        Sarah Palin is such a tool, and the rustiest, dullest one in the shed.

        It shows Republicans, Tea Partiers alike show understanding of an ideology based on rhetoric that is meant to slander whoever has different ideals than them, and not an ideology of understanding a different point of view, how rhetoric is supposed to be implemented.

        • 3 votes
        #1.71 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 7:52 PM EST
        Rick Basora

        ReyRik, WELCOME, My Friend and thank you for dropping by. Well, now you know that I treated Tina with utmost kindness (LOL)! Please tell the folks on your thread that I didn't mean to drop off the map. Things have just gotten heated with Westboro Baptist Church threatening to picket Elizabeth's funeral and then there was THIS.

        Have you ever heard anything more disrespectful, inconsiderate and cruel in your life. When that article was written, Elizabeth Edwards had but hours to live. Scroll down to the commentary at 11:46 PM of last night 12/8. I had to, ReyRik...

        Make no mistake, there is a war raging for the very soul of this country and most of America is unaware. When we revisit "politics" after todays e-mail, we'll discuss how the recent election was bought and sold.

        Now, Palin, she is a social, religious and political disease. We'll discuss her later, when we cover "religion," but feel free to cruise and peruse. I am pleased that you approve.

        Please tell Dowser that, regarding her "Go get her, Rick," this is Part I.

        • 2 votes
        #1.72 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 8:22 PM EST
        ReyRik

        From the article you hyperlinked:

        Still, at her death bed and giving what most folks are calling a final goodbye, Elizabeth Edwards couldn't find it somewhere down deep to ask for His blessings as she prepares for the hereafter? I guess that nihilism I've been discussing reaches up higher into the hard-left precincts than I thought.

        In place of other words that have been taken from my throat, I can only say screw this author. This statement is mind numbingly offensive. Even after Mrs. Edwards said:

        I appreciate other people's prayers for that [a cure for her cancer], but I believe that we are given a set of guidelines, and that we are obligated to live our lives with a view to those guidelines. And I don't that believe we should live our lives that way for some promise of eternal life, but because that's what's right. We should do those things because that's what's right.

        This is deep and makes much more sense than just, 'Thank you God for the life I lived.' Mrs. Edwards is saying a life is worth lived not to end up in heaven, but to do what's right, and I completely agree. Some people may spend their entire life in religious zealousness and perfection, but who do they help, other than trying to help themselves with eternal bliss? Thinking about somebody else other than yourself is proof enough that someone is righteous.

        May Elizabeth Edwards rest in peace.

        • 4 votes
        #1.73 - Thu Dec 9, 2010 8:43 PM EST
        Reply
        HollyKl

        You are speaking for a whole bunch of us out here. Thanks!!

        • 36 votes
        #2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:45 AM EST
        Rick Basora

        In my heart and in my conscience, I had hoped that I would be.

        • 35 votes
        #2.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:01 AM EST
        Jack Orion

        Excellent...very well written!

        • 27 votes
        #2.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:47 AM EST
        Ray-1033782

        No, rick, she was complementing Sebastiano, not you. The arrogance of the LEFT is obvious!!!!

        • 2 votes
        #2.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:15 AM EST
        Jack Orion

        No, rick, she was complementing Sebastiano, not you.

        Proof?

        • 17 votes
        #2.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:19 AM EST
        Ray-1033782

        Well, it WAS immediatly after Sebastiano's comment, so the proof is where she placed here comment. Good enough for ya?

          #2.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:26 AM EST
          Trickledown Frown

          Wow! how incredibly insightful you are! I had no idea HollyKIwas addressing Sebastiano, thanks for clearing that up.

          Being the very wise man that you are, are you familiar with the psychiatric term "projection"?

          • 18 votes
          #2.6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:30 AM EST
          Trickledown Frown

          Ray, Rick posted his first comment at 7:37 AM. HollyKI posted hers at 7:45 AM.

          Your comments remind me of an old Chinese proverb, "When a wise man argues with a fool, who is the fool"?

          If you are a paid liar, they're not getting thier moneys worth.

          There is an empty soapbox in a town square somewhere waiting for you.

          • 14 votes
          #2.7 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:41 AM EST
          HollyKl

          I was most emphatically complimenting Rick. Had I wanted to respond to Sebastiano, which I emphatically don't, I would have placed my comment as a reply to his. Good grief! Pay attention, Ray.

          • 29 votes
          #2.8 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:01 AM EST
          Rick Basora

          Thank you, HollyKl. I was a bit bumfuzzled there.

          • 15 votes
          #2.9 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:25 AM EST
          Jack Orion

          I was most emphatically complimenting Rick.

          Ray-1033782: wrong as usual!

          • 16 votes
          #2.10 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:30 AM EST
          HollyKl

          Oh, and Ray, one more thing. Had you taken two seconds to look at my column, it would have been evident to you that I am a left-leaning, granola-crunching, aging-hippy chick who considers Sarah Palin to be an embarrassment to my gender. A little research is always a good thing...

          • 32 votes
          #2.11 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:41 AM EST
          Vlad's dog

          That was funny, another side issue brough to you by Sarah Palin Pals, join now and prosper. LOL

          • 15 votes
          #2.12 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:43 AM EST
          Rick Basora

          Holly, I'm ROLLIN"!

          • 13 votes
          #2.13 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:53 AM EST
          HollyKl

          Good deal, Rick! More than happy to supply a little humor for today!

          • 12 votes
          #2.14 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:58 AM EST
          Rick Basora

          I tell you, HollyKl, whenever it's gotten "odd" this morning, I went back to TWO things, you & Jack Orion on Ray and Palin's White House Department of Law. You can't make the stuff up! That's why I wrote the letter with links to supporting PROOF SOURCES. Without them, The Palinettes would have contested the facts as preposterous allegations! Now, my question is, how can anyone come face to face with this woman's REALITY and support her role in our government? Do these people WANT US TO FAIL?

          Words of wisdom would be appreciated.

          • 15 votes
          #2.15 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:15 PM EST
          Roryanne

          left-leaning, granola-crunching, aging-hippy chick who considers Sarah Palin to be an embarrassment to my gender.

          You forgot jealous.

          • 5 votes
          #2.16 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:26 PM EST
          HollyKl

          Rick, I've been mulling these questions over in my mind for months now. I don't really believe these people want us to fail. It seems like there's an odd sort of populist sentiment at play here coupled with an unfortunate equation of intellectualism with elitism. My sense is that the Palin supporters honestly think that she is representative of the average American and that she can speak for them in a way that Obama can't. People are afraid of change and they are trying to maintain some illusion of what "real" Americans are supposed to be.

          In my view, of course, their definition of the average American is outdated by about 50 or 60 years and sister Sarah is adopting that guise because she knows it will play well to her supporters. She also knows that the desire for the apple-pie American persona is emotional and fear-based. She'll continue to ratchet up the emotional levels in her supporters because she wants them to vote based on emotion rather than critical thought. The emotional response is what will lead people to support her and to vote for her without really thinking ahead to what will actually happen if she gets elected.

          My two cents at the moment and probably not as articulate as it should be.

          • 14 votes
          #2.17 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:47 PM EST
          HollyKl

          Nope, Roryanne, I did not forget jealous. The day that I find myself jealous of Sarah Palin is the day that I discard my integrity -- as in, not until hell freezes over.

          • 27 votes
          #2.18 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:50 PM EST
          Rick Basora

          All the contrary, HollyKl; an easy to understand, yet terrifying proposition. That's how the 3rd Reich was born!

          • 13 votes
          #2.19 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:08 PM EST
          theralinc

          The third reich was formed because the populace 'followed' pres BO types; reread your history.

          • 4 votes
          #2.20 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:42 PM EST
          Trickledown Frown

          I have read the history and know it well, the NSDAP relied on fearmongering, hate speech, domestic terrorisim and in the last free election only a third of the population voted for the right wing extremist facists.

          So it stands to reason that President Obama is a facist who should stop lying about his birth certificate and inciting violence.

          The "Night of the Long Knives" is coming, watch out!

          • 3 votes
          #2.21 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:46 PM EST
          Rick Basora

          I beg to differ, theralinc. The Third Reich was created when a powerful orator, like Barrack Obama, but with a diametrically opposite agenda, roused the German populous by appealing to their sense of Arian Exceptionalism and providing them with a common enemy which were Jews and any racial-ethnic collective that the National Socialist Party could catalogue as "other." Sound familiar?

          • 20 votes
          #2.22 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:51 PM EST
          Vlad's dog

          History is used like a foil, one must learn history to sword fight well theralinc. You sword is blunted by more facts.

          • 13 votes
          #2.23 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:01 PM EST
          Ray-1033782

          Revisionist "History" again. Oh, and Ray, one more thing. Had you taken two seconds to look at my column, it would have been evident to you that I am a left-leaning, granola-crunching, aging-hippy chick who considers Sarah Palin to be an embarrassment to my gender. A little research is always a good thing....First, this is the problem. You and your utopian dreaming Left. Never worked, and still won't. Next, the part about the birth of the Reich was almost correct, except you have to look out from behind your rose glasses to see. Yes, an Obama type did the damage, but he also had to keep printing more and more money to do it, sound familiar? No, bush didn't try to Print more, that's Obama's baby, and he doesn't understand, as the Left doesn't, that you don't correct an overdrawn Bank account by writing more bad checks while giving away your assets. Never worked before, and won't now. Face it Lib's, your society is failing very fast, and we are called the "RIGHT" for very good reason. See ya in 2012, and I can already see the Lawyers, al Al Gore, lining up!!!!!

          • 2 votes
          #2.24 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:05 PM EST
          Trickledown Frown

          You are in error Ray, it was the Weimar Republic that printed enormous amounts of money at that created a financial crises that enabled Hitlers rise. The Nazis financed themselves through plundering the Jews. I've heard rumors that the Koch brothers are related to Ilse Koch who was the wife of the Kommandant and had a "special job".

          This looks like drifting off topic but I won't stand by and let Fox distortions about facism in Germany go unchallenged. Some of us are very serious about never forgetting what happened.

          • 11 votes
          #2.25 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:33 PM EST
          Trickledown Frown

          I forgot to mention that Karl Koch was Kommandant at Buchenwald.

          • 9 votes
          #2.26 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:42 PM EST
          HollyKl

          Ray, honestly you crack me up. Taking an ironically used stereotype at face value and using it to generalize about utopian dreaming? I may be a progressive liberal but I am also realistic enough to understand that utopia is likely out of reach for the human race. We're too cantakerous and contentious to agree on what utopia should be in the first place. And all in all, that's probably a good thing. Being RIGHT all the time can get to be very boring.

          • 8 votes
          #2.27 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:57 PM EST
          Stand up, speak out

          HollyKl

          Oh, and Ray, one more thing. Had you taken two seconds to look at my column, it would have been evident to you that I am a left-leaning, granola-crunching, aging-hippy chick who considers Sarah Palin to be an embarrassment to my gender. A little research is always a good thing...

          What, no latte-sipping or tree-hugging?

          • 3 votes
          #2.28 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:59 PM EST
          Stand up, speak out

          theralinc,

          The current state of the GOP, even considering your "victory" in Novemeber, actually especially because of your victory in November, bears some very disturbing similarities to the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party. Just for starters, because I don't want to burden anyone too much, you've got an extremely fractured party with an even more-so fractured sub-party who at the time seems to wield great power within the greater party and supports a very unqualified, but polarizing dangerous personality.

          Guess what Pal? We're onto you this time.

          • 7 votes
          #2.29 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:08 PM EST
          davetopper

          And he has yet taken any responsibility for putting words in your mouth. Something the right will never do and that is accept being wrong, openly.

          As for their utopia I can only imagine it, the infirm need not apply, minorities need not apply AND Mexican people, that is a given with their disdain towards now anyone that is NOT WHITE.

          And if there was a need to look at their utopia looking out I think the backdrop of those Kurt Russel movies fit quite well. They would have their utopia, those that need not apply would have the spoils, and elsewhere, out of sight and out of mind.

          They argue this outcome with me and yet when asked "should those without health care just die?", that answer is "yes".

          • 4 votes
          #2.30 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:23 PM EST
          Dawn-2693290

          For really real. Thank you for telling it like it is!!!!

          • 1 vote
          #2.31 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:47 PM EST
          CynicL1

          it would have been evident to you that I am a left-leaning, granola-crunching, aging-hippy chick who considers Sarah Palin to be an embarrassment to my gender.

          Holly you just described my wife in great detail! LOL

          • 7 votes
          #2.32 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:50 PM EST
          "Big Ern" McKracken

          a powerful orator, like Barrack Obama,

          Powerful? How can this remotely be true given that Oblunder himself said he never got his message out? You libs have to get your stories straight. Is Oblunder an effective orator if he cannot even competently expound on his message? Or, more correctly, is he an ineffective leader who cannot pass Leadership 101, which is to make sure that you fully and competently explain your agenda so that everyone can work towards it and understand why you are doing what you are doing? Oblunder is and has always been in way over his ineffectual head. Let's hope that Oblunder never gets rid of his prized squadron of teleprompters. They add 50 points to his IQ.

          • 2 votes
          #2.33 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:47 PM EST
          Rainkiss

          When the schoolyard name-twisting slurs start, I tune out. It's a fairly valid indication that the rest of the post isn't worth reading.

          • 6 votes
          #2.34 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:27 AM EST
          Ray-1033782

          Need you to clear up a few things from your statement;

          "Stand up, speak out
          theralinc,

          The current state of the GOP, even considering your "victory" in Novemeber, actually especially because of your victory in November, bears some very disturbing similarities to the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party. Just for starters, because I don't want to burden anyone too much, you've got an extremely fractured party with an even more-so fractured sub-party who at the time seems to wield great power within the greater party and supports a very unqualified, but polarizing dangerous personality.

          Guess what Pal? We're onto you this time.

          So, by your learned eval, you would deny the "Green" Party as Leftist? or "Environmental" faction, politically, as Leftist? Or, again the statement from Hill-o-beans about NAFTA, where WE, the USA, became responsible for the Enviro trash in Mexico and other "Emerging" Nations? Or, that, after 11 Months in office Hubby and the Legal Legion needed to protect Bill and Hillary couldn't/Didn't read the Treaty before he signed it? Guess all that, and more, is excusable?

          The story was about Sara using Michelle's words, DIRECT QUOTE AS SHE SPOKE THEM, and broadcast over ALL network's(Not just Fox and MSNBC, as twisted sources) but also broadcast, makes Sara wrong? To point out her disdain over America was, and is, very important. However, as was thrown back to me, "How about a country that HAS to pass Civil Rights Laws/Amendments?" Well, I guess Michell was ashamed of that strife also. As for "Needing to pass" such Law shows we, The USA, FAR exceed the "Human-Rights" of her, and Barrack's, Home-land Africa, where there are very few equality Laws, or Asia, where workers are warehoused, fed slop, and have NO privacy either personnaly or in speech, or the "New friend's" in the Mid-East where if you are not in the Royal bloodline you have zero rights. Britan where a Queen rules and speech/expression very edited and stifled. Back to India, where the caste system of Governing is the Law, very advanced society, right?

          Me, I'm VERY Proud of the fact we did, and still do, have Civil Rights Law's, but apparently Dr. King's strife and drive slipped her mind. Sara used a direct quote, out of Michelle's mouth, and it was in no way twisted ot spin. Out of "Context" as I've seen means that the actual wording of what she, or anyone on the Left calls, direct quotes from recordings or actually hearing it, as America did, before the Spin Dr's can change it. Gonna have to live with that, because we now have ways to expose actual speech without re-writing it to fit the needs of your Leftist Liars called the "Press" "Media" or "Columnists" that have an agenda, and that agenda is normally to destroy America than to promote it, not as a Handout Nation, but one with actual workers and Leaders that work for We, the People. Carter, Clinton, and Obama have done more during their Administrations to Destroy this Nation than at any other time since it's birth, but they can't hide the "disdain" for America Michelle feels, at least before Hubby was getting his "Big" Government job, and she WAS on the campaign trail when she spoke her words, like Bill claimimg to have been the "First Black President" and costing Hillary, thank God, the Nomination. So, for two more years We, the People are stuck with another Socialist/Communist President. Just Ducky!!!!!

          • 1 vote
          #2.35 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:56 AM EST
          katlin

          thanks ray, you summed it up perfectly...."in her own words" they just go on "making excuses" for her, ...all I hear is- but, but what she really meant was--NO she said the words, she owns them..

            #2.36 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:36 PM EST
            Stand up, speak out

            Ray, what does all that have to do with my response to this comment?

            theralinc

            The third reich was formed because the populace 'followed' pres BO types; reread your history.

            • 2 votes
            #2.37 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:24 PM EST
            Dee-1100246

            Jews and any racial-ethnic collective that the National Socialist Party could catalogue as "other." Sound familiar?

            We will probably never know how many Africans were caught up and killed in the holocost.

            • 2 votes
            #2.38 - Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:55 AM EST
            Reply
            AlphaDogReporter

            Sarah Palin is the most amazing political hack I have seen in my entire lifetime. Her snake-oil hucksterism surpasses P.T. Barnum by miles.

            • 28 votes
            #3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:21 AM EST
            Rick Basora

            What I find incomprehensible, is the size of her following. What happened to us? Is it in the water?

            • 27 votes
            #3.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:25 AM EST
            yellowdog-1220329

            How did we ever get to the point that "Lurleen, the Trailer Court Queen" speaks for even a minority of our citizenry? Truly, it must be a sign of the Apocalypse.

            • 18 votes
            #3.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:44 AM EST
            Ray-1033782

            Weell, sir, your "Lurleen, the Trailer Queen" voice showed in the Election. She may not have been elected, but the people, We, the People, did voice our opinion and a lot of that is based on her speech and American values. BTW, the Left has forced the views of the "Minority" ( Not racial in any form) upon the Majority for about 50 years, since JFK was boss, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama, and the entire left, forcing us into Socialism and Communism. Read the Voting records and who was the POTUS when all our failures happened.

            • 4 votes
            #3.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:31 AM EST
            Glo25420

            Rick, first, thank you for a wonderful synopsis of what millions of actual Patriots and Christians are horrified by. Whenever I hear of some GOP mandate in the mid-terms, I think instead of their successful ploy to appeal to the basest instincts of man: fear, greed, hate, racism, and misguided jealously of the educated. It's not in the water, it's an organized effort to get poor and uninformed people to support the interests of millionaires and billionaires, and of course the agenda of the elitist GOP, instead of their own. It works because it's easier than thinking, and courts and flatters their subjects into thinking they somehow "belong" to a group that deep down they know wouldn't have a thing to do with them, except for their votes. These are people, who instead of gleaning the facts by reading and investigating every source possible, are content with getting validation of their worth by letting the corporate and GOP funded shills at FOX tell them what to think. Never mind that the GOP has voted agains't every measure that would help them, and have no ideas except protecting their own pocketbooks. The question is, how do you reach them with the facts, get them to want to protect their God given rights as Americans before they blindly give them up (and everybody elses) to power hungry opportunists and right wing extremists?

            • 16 votes
            #3.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:07 AM EST
            Kathleen McKenzie

            Ray:

            JFK was boss, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama, and the entire left, forcing us into Socialism and Communism.

            JFK forced us into Communism when he blockaded Cuba and prevented Soviet missiles from being set up? Johnson furthered Communism by pushing for civil rights and voting privileges for ALL, not just white Southern elites? Medicare for the elderly is socialism? Access to affordable health care is socialism? GWB taking us into pre-emptive war is democracy at its finest? I must need new glasses. I'm having trouble distinguishing the bad guys from the good guys.

            • 23 votes
            #3.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:39 AM EST
            Rick Basora

            Glo-25420, SPOT ON! I've written to that very same subject and it breaks my heart. It does so, because I see a mass of innocents, manipulated to vote against their own best interest. Can we call them stupid, misinformed, ignorant and a slew of derogates? Maybe. Is it any Political Party's RIGHT to sequester power on the shoulders and misfortunes of these masses? ABSOLUTELY NOT! It is a moral travesty and the bastardization of the INTENT of our Founders and a blatant disregard for our Constitution. I am a staunch and proud Liberal. However, I lit into President Obama like he was a Pentecostal tambourine. Why? For not standing up to TYRANNY with the fierceness that he promised his electors in 2008. What ever possessed him to think that he could "play nice" with that gaggle of goons that is today's Conservative caucus? I'm mortified!

            • 18 votes
            #3.6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:51 AM EST
            NativeAmerican-1289371

            Caribou Barbie's looks have a lot to do with her amazing appeal. After her looks fade and she packs on some pounds she will be discarded on the dung heap of cheap political self-serving hacks.

            • 17 votes
            #3.7 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:27 PM EST
            Rick Basora

            Nothing like a good dose of NativeAmerican wisdom from a fellow EdHead (kool)!

            • 10 votes
            #3.8 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:04 PM EST
            Steve-2081387

            We get it, libs hate all things Palin, youve gone after her, her husband, her children, hell, if she has a dog he's going to be next on the list. What you dont realize is that youre becoming the mirror image of what you claim she is, with all the hate and accusations, youre willing to believe anything bad whether its true or not. Is this what the Democratic Party has come to?

            • 3 votes
            #3.9 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:45 PM EST
            Fletch2-1565982

            Steve,

            No one has gone after her. She trots her family out and uses them to get fame and attention. She blames everyone else for her inability to communicate effectively. She repeats the same old line against the POTUS and his wife. If you listen to one of her speeches, you have heard them all. It's the same thing every time. She twist the truth and lies about everyone while trying to exempt herself from scrutiny.

            Someone had the gall to criticize her 'show' by saying they did not like it and her kids went after them with some of the most foul language. She wants to present herself as a victim while she and her family victimize others. Maybe if she focus a little more attention on her kids rather than making money, they might grow up to be better citizens.

            She really is an embarrassment to the women in this country.

            • 18 votes
            #3.10 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:06 PM EST
            Glo25420

            Actually, Steve, nobody hates Palin's family, it's her ignorance, arrogance, manipulation of dumb people to support corporate interests over their own, racism, hatred of democracy, corruption while in office, petty and ugly innuendo directed at our President, promotion of imbeciles and right wing extremists for national office, bullying, divisiveness, lies, and threats to our civil and Constitutional rights that drives freedom loving Americans up the wall. I don't like fascists, and know enough about history to recall what happened in Germany when one man convinced the population that their neighbors were their enemies, and only one race and political party deserved to live. Signed, a Real American, (and former GOP moderate).

            • 18 votes
            #3.11 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:24 PM EST
            Rick Basora

            Steve-2081387, may I ask where in the article or in the thread you see that I have gone against any member of The Palin family other the the verified lying matriarch. By entering politics and conducting that career with deliberate manipulations of truth and "convicted" abuse of power, Palin openned herself and made herself available fro such discovery and accountability. I, for one, will hold her accoutable for her malfeasence. A bipartisan commission in Alaska, already did in 2008. Yes, unless the lady undergoes a paradigm shift, I will continue to hate ALL THINGS PALIN...I don't care about her "winks" mor her lipstickless Pit Bull. I care about America and the preservation of it's integrity. When someone cannot name a Founding Father, or show awareness that Africa is a Continent or demonstrate that she feeds her mind, then I will Rail furiously against such incompetence that would narcissistically attempt to alter The Constitution of The United States. Tens of thousands have died for that document, Sir. It will not be the likes of a Sarah Palin that will be allowed to defile it.

            • 15 votes
            #3.12 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:45 PM EST
            Jorge-2191028

            GLO

            What happened in GERMANY was NATIONAL SOCIALISM..

            Hitler created the modern european social safety net....the middle class sold their country for "security" and creadle to grave govt programs to take care of them.

            Whose selling that cradle to grave social safety net in 2010 america? isnt the right wing.

            • 2 votes
            #3.13 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:46 PM EST
            Dennis P McCann

            What happened in GERMANY was NATIONAL SOCIALISM..

            What happened in Germany was fascism, which is far right wing.

            Yeah, I know it was called the National Socialist Party...but the Tea Party doesn't make tea, either.

            • 21 votes
            #3.14 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:59 PM EST
            badchess

            And 50% of the people in America would say the same about the current president.

            • 2 votes
            #3.15 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:14 PM EST
            Mike-2260639

            Jorge,

            What happened in GERMANY was NATIONAL SOCIALISM..

            Yeah! How is it even possible that a socialist would kill other socialists and Bolchevicks and Jews and anyone else who got in their way.

            Get this through your thick @!$%#ing skulls! The NSDAP was a far right wing fascist dictatorship. The Soviet Union was an extreme form of socialism and a sworn enemy of the Third Reich. And IMO, what we have brewing in this country now is a form of fascism on the far @!$%#ing right. It is corporate, theocratic fascism. And this bitch, Palin, is part of it!

            • 12 votes
            #3.16 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:17 PM EST
            Stand up, speak out

            NativeAmerican-1289371

            Caribou Barbie's looks have a lot to do with her amazing appeal.

            Rick's posted photo of her should dispel some of that appeal.

            • 6 votes
            #3.17 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:11 PM EST
            Stand up, speak out

            Jorge-2191028

            GLO

            What happened in GERMANY was NATIONAL SOCIALISM..

            Hitler created the modern european social safety net....the middle class sold their country for "security" and creadle to grave govt programs to take care of them.

            Who taught you history, Glenn Beck? Like Mike-2260639 says, there was nothing whatsoever leftist about the Nazis other than the name of their party. I can't remember how many times I've tried to tell you folks that the Nazis mastered their skill at propogandism so well that they've still got folks like you bamboozled 75 years later.

            • 7 votes
            #3.18 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:20 PM EST
            Steve-2081387

            You people still dont get it, youre doing the same thing to her as you claim she is doing to others.

            Rick Basora...Obama said there were 57 states, what are supposed to make of that, an innocent mistake or is he just as ignorant as you say Palin is?

            • 1 vote
            #3.19 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:30 AM EST
            Stand up, speak out

            Steve, if you are stupid enough to believe that's what Obama meant to say as opposed to it being something he mis-spoke then Lord help you. On the other hand, I'm totally convinced that B-S still thinks Africa is a country.

            • 6 votes
            #3.20 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:55 AM EST
            Steve-2081387

            So when Obama does it he just mispoke and when Palin does it she's a moron. If Obama told you horsesh#t tasted good youd grab a spoon and head for the stable, even if he mispoke and meant horseraddish.

            Fletch

            Someone had the gall to criticize her 'show' by saying they did not like it and her kids went after them with some of the most foul language.

            And then the progressives, the party of tolerence, went after her kids.

            • 2 votes
            #3.21 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:14 AM EST
            Glo25420

            Gee Steve, are you talking about Willow calling someone who made a fairly innocuous criticizm of her parents tv show a "faggot"; or are you referring to the fact that Bristol has beaten great competition on DWTS, even though she has no discernable dance ability? Yes people have commented on those things, but it was general public outrage, not necessarily just those who think their mother is a threat to intelligent governance. The guy who was so outraged by the unfairness that he shot out his own tv screen didn't sound like a liberal to me. Liberals aren't going after Palins kids, they consider Palin's kids to be a captive audience to the hateful and stupid things she says, and victims of the (sought after) media frenzy those comments produce. No, the lie that progressives are attacking the Palin kids is just another pathetic teabag attempt to "create" a rallying point for dumb people.

            • 9 votes
            #3.22 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:33 AM EST
            Stand up, speak out

            And then the progressives, the party of tolerence

            Says who? I have no tolerance whatsoever for you bagger-wipes.

            • 5 votes
            #3.23 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:46 AM EST
            katlin

            they consider Palin's kids to be a captive audience to the hateful and stupid things she says,

            BULL-- the left goes after the palins kids because they are the easier target for their hatefulness....bristol is an 18-19 yr old out dancing and having fun..trouble is she is popular and keeps getting voted back on by the public, this drives the libs crazy to think any palin can actually be popular, bristol is a 14 yr old they speculate on if she is pregnant, trig is an infant with down's syndrome that is the butt of several of their sick jokes.. so they try to get sarah to back into the shadows by attacking her children..shameful is what it is..but the libs have proven they are all so tolerant and welcoming...LOL.. only if you are a muslim, socialist, communist or terrorist..

            • 1 vote
            #3.24 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:54 AM EST
            Glo25420

            Sarah is a threat to intelligent government, regardless of how many brainwashed FOX addicts are willing to give up their civil and Constitutional rights, and take the rest of the country down with them. Nobody but the teabags are bringing her kids into it. It's a shame you teabaggers and your messiah Palin focus on creating distractions and lies instead of concentrating on, and trying to comprehend, the real and important issues of the day. Like she so famously said, "my followers don't know anything, and don't expect me to know anything either".

            • 7 votes
            #3.25 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:54 AM EST
            katlin

            Nobody but the teabags are bringing her kids into it

            don't get out much, hey....?.......I believe it was a lib viner that started a 2 yr old article on her kids again..simply to bash the palin kids, again..guess they got nothin new..maybe they should check out bristol on dancing , she's doing great ....

            • 1 vote
            #3.26 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:39 PM EST
            Mike-2260639

            katlin,

            she's doing great ....

            When she qualifies for "So You Think You Can Dance" then we'll discuss her TRUE artistic abilities.

            • 4 votes
            #3.27 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:52 PM EST
            ivanho75

            Jorge -

            Go to page 41, 3rd paragraph, Chapter "Birth of The Nazi Party" and read what William Shirer wrote about socialism and the Nazis in the epic boo "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich".

            It would behoove you to have actual facts so as to not embarrass yourself in the futur when feeling compelled to compare Democrats to Nazis.

            • 4 votes
            #3.28 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:15 PM EST
            Stand up, speak out

            It won't help Ivanho, like I said, the Nazi's propoganda is still working on some of these folks.

            • 2 votes
            #3.29 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:59 PM EST
            Fletch2-1565982

            Steve,

            And then the progressives, the party of tolerence, went after her kids.

            How? Who? When?

            No one went after her kids. Comments were made about the language they used, which is a reflection of how they were brought up. I know you think no one should respond to that negative family. They should be allowed to do and say what they want but god forbid anyone should criticize. The typical do as I say, not as I do.

            Sarah was pregnant when she eloped.

            Bristol had a baby out of wedlock as a teenager.

            Willow and Bristol has foul mouths.

            It has not been confirmed or disputed that Track went to the armed forces to avoid jail time.

            She takes Trig, who is a special needs child, and parade him around for political benefit.

            But don't you dare say anything about her show ponies. They are off limits until she need to use them.

            She is trotting her family out for cash , all her speeches and books are all about criticizing others, while complaining about people talking about her family. What a hypocrite.

            • 4 votes
            #3.30 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:32 PM EST
            Dee-1100246

            Hey that Joe six pack demographic ain't a small one. There are more of them that love her than those who are grossed out by Kody Brown and his "family."

            • 1 vote
            #3.31 - Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:58 AM EST
            Reply
            Vlad's dog

            I heard you were writing this Rick and I could not wait to read your words. They were artistic, relevent, truthtful, funny and oh so good to read this morning, Bravo my friend, Bravo indeed.

            keep em comin'. :)

            • 21 votes
            Reply#4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:40 AM EST
            Rick Basora

            Oh My...it's one of my very few heroes. The Big Bowzer himself! Welcome Vlad's dog. My thread is yours as well. I owe you a debt of gratitude for the awareness that I gained in yours, as well as the priceless friends that I made.

            This one, well...let's just call it a moral DUTY! I am pleased that you approve.

            • 18 votes
            #4.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:48 AM EST
            Ray-1033782

            Rick, if you feel this is "a moral duty" you may want to check your morals. Destroying someones freedom to speak with one-sided commentary isn't quite what the framers had in mind with the 1st Amendment, also called the Bill of Rights, for those on the very Left. I for one don't find supporting the destruction of America by Obama, Mrs. Obam, or you very Moral. But, you have the right, how about learning to respect others rights as well. Sara wrote a Book, as has Clinton and Al Gore, but you find every one of their lies acceptable? Moral?

            • 2 votes
            #4.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:23 AM EST
            Rick Basora

            Lies, regardless of who perpetrates them, are unacceptable, Ray. Palin's lie happen to have been malicious and wedged against someone who is not in political play. You haven't seen any of the writers that you mentioned lie-about or even reference Todd Palin, Bristol, Willow, Track, Trip, Trig...or Tree, Truck or Train for that matter. What gives HER the right?

            • 26 votes
            #4.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:58 AM EST
            magnoliaave

            Hi Vlad's Dog....totally agree with you. You have a way with words, also. I am one of the "bees"!

            • 6 votes
            #4.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:15 AM EST
            G. H.

            Good morning Vlad's, great comments on this excellent article!! Thank you Rick Basora! You wrote it better than I could have! ♥ ♥ ♥

            • 10 votes
            #4.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:32 PM EST
            Tom W.-670850

            Uhmm, I wonder who actually wrote the book? I am sure it's a ghost writer! Meanwhile I loved the "off air" comments about Palin's show! Warmed my heart!

            • 15 votes
            #4.6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:34 PM EST
            Rick Basora

            Thank you G.H.

            Tom W, absolutely. If one dislikes reading, one will hate writing!

            • 9 votes
            #4.7 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:44 PM EST
            Vlad's dog

            I worte the book for Sarah.

            No, I wrote the book for Sarah,

            No I am Spartacus!

            LOL

            • 11 votes
            #4.8 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:05 PM EST
            Ray-1033782

            Lies, regardless of who perpetrates them, are unacceptable, Ray. Palin's lie happen to have been malicious and wedged against someone who is not in political play. You haven't seen any of the writers that you mentioned lie-about or even reference Todd Palin, Bristol, Willow, Track, Trip, Trig...or Tree, Truck or Train for that matter. What gives HER the right?

            Might want to check their writings again, slick, especially Gore on his wonderful award from all those PolSci Masters earners in Happyland at their annual parade of the Socialist sickness this nation needs no part of. Are you by chance happy to have bought the lie over Bay of Pigs/Missle crisis? That was about a week before he upped the firast troop level in Asia. Yes, as I've said before, but you missed, the Civil Rights Amendment was and is a very good thing. However, for Michell to disreguard that as being an embarrasment in Her Country, that I find apalling. All she, or anyone, needs to do is look at the attrocious forms of Human treatment in our "Friendas" nations: Africa, Asia, Mid-East. We go to War to better conditions because they need correcting, but, you on the Left just don't get it. We go for very good reason. Her statement of never being proud is a sickness we as FREE AMERICAN don't need. Her words)Michelle's) have been echoed not only here, but also in Europe, where we are fast becoming a Laug. Socialism? Never worked, and all you need to do is look at the EU to see it failing as fast as the Left would like to see us fall.

            • 2 votes
            #4.9 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:18 PM EST
            proglib

            Her statement of never being proud is a sickness

            The rightwing's twisting of Michelle Obama's actual words, "for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country" is a greater sickness...and she is loved in Europe.

            http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/20897.html

            Excellent article, Rick--Bravo!

            • 11 votes
            #4.10 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:53 PM EST
            Stand up, speak out

            The first time I travelled abroad while dubya was at the helm is the first time I questioned my pride of being an American.

            • 5 votes
            #4.11 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:08 PM EST
            Reply
            Ray-1033782

            Well, it's evident from the actions of the President that, after he was electre, he has done exactly as was expected. He and the Liberal Left that want nothing more than to see our nation fail; Don't vote on extension's of benefits until afterthe election, then fast track it, as neither side today, before the 112th is swworn has "Super-majority" seating. Don't count those NOT getting unemployment benfits, and still not working, into the actual demise of our Industry as exported in massively supported Federal Tax breaks under Clinton. Don't try to bolster the economy by awarding India the right to produce even more "American" goods by shipping out H-D Motorcycle Corporation, Don't give up what little defense we have by forging a "Treaty" whereby we give up one-third of our Missle defences, while Russia gives up nothing. Oh, by the way, that Home ownership/Job export Policy under Clinton, and you Mr. President support, is the reason for our economic failure. Not the Conservatives, but the Majority Deemocrat Congress since 1998, there is the blame. Vote on taxes? NOT until after we get booted, then we blame the right. Support our Constitution by closing our border? NO, give away America. Michelle's words were, by your quote, "For the first time in my adult life have I been proud of my country". If you weren't proud before, why did you stay here? You and your Husband are both touting your Havard Law degrees, yet you weren't proud of the Nation that afforded you the opportunity to get that Degree? If you in fact are both Lawyers, then why is it you cannot read and understand our basic Law system, one that has been flawed( by Racisim in slavery, by allowing dissedent to gain office, by allowing enemies to be educated here and return to their Anti-American homes and fight us, and yes many more) But, you cannot deny your Husbands policies, with the Left, have done more harm to our country in 2 years than you can possibly blame on Bush. One thing you, and the Left, fail most at is accepting responsibility for your word and actions, always the victim, not my fault.

            Attack real Americans while you kill the greates Democracy in the World, and laugh while it happens. YES, it is Bushes fault the likes of Hussein aren't alive killing thousands for speaking out. Yes, it's Bushes fault we have driven Al Queda into caves, yes it was flawed United Nations inspectors giving false information about Nuclear threat from Iraq. But all you can do is sit in judgement of those trying to make the World safer, all the while having Leftist writers attacking those that have spoken your words. If you, or anyone, can't be proud of the Gov't and citizens over the last 300 years, then maybe you should retire and find a Nation that more supports your views.

            I realize that the moderator won't allow this as I have not praised the Author, or your statement, or your Husbands failed Presidency, but that is just another example of your Lesftist attitude of "Free speech is allowed only after proper screening and editing by our Party". Your Democrat, Rockefeller, called for stifling by silencing two cable networks that speak freely, and quite honestly, about the Admin's failure, but that isn't free speech, block the truth at all costs. Never proud of America until Hubby was elected? Why did you stay here?

            I will be labled, called names, ridiculed for not agreeing with this very slanted article by Rick Basora, but again when you call me names, call me AMERICAN PATRIOT first. I, as most of you, have fought and nearly died for our Nation, to build it and keep the freedoms you and your's want stripped and sold out. I cannot wait until my vote counts again in 2012, unless yyou on the left complete the transition to Communisim you so dearly love.

            BTW, this response is copy/pasted into other Blogs, where free expression is allowed, and the comment #, if posted, will be included. Your sad evaluation and running from the fact is now out there for all to see. You wrap yourself in our hard earned rights, then blast those that excercise those rights, all the while poisoning the truth. 20 years in tutilage by that Preacher and we see the result, it is so evident, so plain.

            If you or anyone else cannot supprot our Constitution, and laws, then go away and find one that doesn't give you the freedoms we, prior to Clinton/Obama enjoyed.

            • 9 votes
            #5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:07 AM EST
            yellowdog-1220329

            Long winded squirrel with a persecution complex!

            • 28 votes
            #5.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:10 AM EST
            HollyKl

            Yep, yellowdog, you got that right.

            • 22 votes
            #5.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:23 AM EST
            Rick Basora

            Ray-1033782, Yes, it is clear that the amorphous diatribe is a "cut and paste." The only statement that were realive to the article persisted in the condemnation of Michelle Obama for a comment cinfirmed to have been taken out of context. You indicate that she should have been proud way before then. Allow me to ask you ONE question:

            Do you truly believe that Michelle should have been proud of a nation that required a CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT of MILLIONS to wrench from its bigoted grip the inalienable rights that were granted to her BY A GOD, and bestowed upon her as a human birth-right?

            • 24 votes
            #5.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:35 AM EST
            Ray-1033782

            No, but I do take a very serious excetion to expressing less than pride for a nation that has passed those efforts. And well needed and deserved efforts. BTW, Eisenhower, in 1957, tried to get Congressional approval to stop the blatant racism in the south, but was voted down by the Democrats, then the Southern Democrats, and mainly ex-and active clan members. I remember, I lived through it. Only when Kennedy was elected, and Papa Joe's money was threatened from being removed from the Democrat Party did they vote in the badly needed amendment, and about 100 years too late. The Southern Democrats, now Democrats, stopped the Law at every turn prior to Kennedy, who didn't sign it. Johnson signed it about a year after Kennedy was killed, but we did get it done. I lived in CA then, as a High School student. We had every race that wanted a job, we had every race wanting an education, in spite of the Southern Democrats. We saw the South import thugs to beat minorities and supporters, we were beaten for speaking to minorities, but that wasn't reported, the South was. Civil rights were way late and hard fought for by many not in the South. But now, we see those same Democratic Party leaders, and their "Students" giving away our Country at every turn.

            Michelles "we must re-write History" statement is a fact we have lived under for many years. It is evident in our Teachers changing the Facts, our Tenured Professors forcing Socialist views or no grade, and the failed Policies of especially Clinton/Obam. For her words of never being proud? Not even for the effort to free her Race, finally, and gain equal rights for Female and Disabled? For gaining what should have been? I was and am still very proud of our accomplishments, and Nation where we could change the wrong, but I would never say I have never been proud of America, except when I see the Damage, daily, that the Democrats and the Left have foisted on us, the free America that has no voice in the media. I am white. I carry scars for life for being one who fought for those rights in the 50s, 60s 70s and now. I am 100% combat disabled from Vietnam, but I still stand for America, I will never turn my back on Freedom or the Founders that gave us the Constitution, and the rights to Amend it, when need be. That, Rick, is where I come from, not the Bastardized education of today, not the undermining of our freedoms, freeddoms for ALL Americans, not a select few. Is Michelle proud of her Husband, the President, when he fails to close our Borders and ignores the Constitution? I for one certainly hope not.

            • 6 votes
            #5.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:54 AM EST
            G. H.

            Oh please! Slight exaggeration? Sarah is a waste of space. If you want a *FREE COUNTRY* after your struggles and your service, you won't get it with her and her group.

            • 15 votes
            #5.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:36 PM EST
            theralinc

            Geez Ray, your response reads better than the seed. Give us more so we can get back to reality.

            • 2 votes
            #5.6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:48 PM EST
            kj031056-1

            There is a huge difference between these two sentences.....see if you can spot it.

            For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country......or

            For the first time in my adult life, I am REALLY proud of my country.......did you see it?

            One word completely changes the meaning of the sentence. I am so sick of people dropping words when editting their soundbites. News organizations, of the love of God, tell me the truth, the Who, What, Where, When and Why of it all. You can slant it anyway you want, but just tell me the effing truth......

            • 16 votes
            #5.7 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:55 PM EST
            Lola-984242

            Don't even waste your time kj031056-1, there's a few here that flunked elementary reading comprehension.

            • 16 votes
            #5.8 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:01 PM EST
            Tom W.-670850

            Waste of space? More like a waste of skin!

            • 8 votes
            #5.9 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:09 PM EST
            Ray-1033782

            Lola and Tom, again you prove the point we conservatives have known all along: Two things the Left can't do is admit the truth and speak it.

            • 2 votes
            #5.10 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:20 PM EST
            Smc31569

            Listen folks...you're dealing w/a moron who doesn't even realize that America is NOT a democracy but was in fact founded as a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC (not that he has a freaking CLUE what that is ) and is somehow under the misguided and deluded notion that he is a "patriot" by ignorantly and blindly supporting a neo-fascist party of corporate elitists that is literally hellbent on destroying the middle class and turning us all into 21st century feudal serfs.

            Jesus... these rightwing lunatics seriously need to get OFF the crack.

            • 11 votes
            #5.11 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:24 PM EST
            kj031056-1

            Lola and Tom, again you prove the point we conservatives have known all along: Two things the Left can't do is admit the truth and speak it.

            Ray.....talk about not being to admit the truth.....you are shown the EXACT quote of what Michelle Obama said, and yet you still want to believe the editted version, which basically changes her sentence.

            What's that saying "As everyone knows, a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth"

            • 11 votes
            #5.12 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:05 PM EST
            Stand up, speak out

            Ray, your post won't get collapsed for the same reason we like Sarah. You're both very good justification for the GO-bagger-Pees to be run out of American politics for good. I have no problem with the GOP, as I once knew it, but you nuts just aren't the same. Keep up the good work and now I'm scrolling back up to vote every one of your posts up.

            • 6 votes
            #5.13 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:15 PM EST
            Ray-1033782

            "Smc31569
            Listen folks...you're dealing w/a moron who doesn't even realize that America is NOT a democracy but was in fact founded as a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC (not that he has a freaking CLUE what that is ) and is somehow under the misguided and deluded notion that he is a "patriot" by ignorantly and blindly supporting a neo-fascist party of corporate elitists that is literally hellbent on destroying the middle class and turning us all into 21st century feudal serfs.

            Jesus... these rightwing lunatics seriously need to get OFF the crack.

            10!#5.11 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:24 PM EST

            If you ALL have such a problem with this Nation that has allowed you the rights that VERY few in History have ever had, then leave, but leave America alone.

            America was founded as a Represenrtative Republic? are you a New Wave Professor ? Our nation, in the DECLARATION of Independance states " A free and Democratic Government to serve the People". You pinheads will be all over that "DEM" part, but the fact remains that the DEMOCRATS do NOT represent the People, they represent the few, special interests, and the destruction of what they abhore the most: Truth and Free people. Both make the Left puke, and all I need for truth is to refer you to the poison and hate you on the Left spit out here.

              #5.14 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:40 PM EST
              Stand up, speak out

              If you ALL have such a problem with this Nation that has allowed you the rights that VERY few in History have ever had, then leave, but leave America alone.

              Love it or leave it, ahhh, hahahaha. How about we stick around and fix it and then boot all the arses like you out?

              • 4 votes
              #5.15 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:59 PM EST
              mytimetospeakout

              Ray, even if I can't agree with all you believe in, I do thank you for your sacrifice and service.

              • 2 votes
              #5.16 - Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:12 AM EST
              Reply
              Profchaos

              do you see a single reference to her husband's winning of elections

              then what is...

              And not just because Barack has done well

              it's a vague statement but she was on the campaign trail...

              Neither can you point to one trace of racial hatred nor disdain for the country that both

              being proud of her country for the first time shows disdain for everything that has happened before. people have come together for common causes in her adult lifetime. hell her husband was a community organizer... she really never saw people come together?

              • 5 votes
              Reply#6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:10 AM EST
              Rick Basora

              You are pre-supposing that her reference to her husband having done well was relative to elections. Sir, he hadn't even won his party's nomination. With regard to your subsequent observation, I would ask you the same question that I asked the poster before you.

              Do you truly believe that Michelle should have been proud of a nation that required a CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT of MILLIONS to wrench from its bigoted grip the inalienable rights that were granted to her BY A GOD, and bestowed upon her as a human birth-right?

              • 19 votes
              #6.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:40 AM EST
              theralinc

              Hey Rick, what more do you want? We voted in BO to prove we were not racist, PERIOD!! W

              • 1 vote
              #6.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:52 PM EST
              Rick Basora

              If that's why some voted, they voted for the wrong reason, theralinc.

              • 15 votes
              #6.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:39 PM EST
              Mollybrown-2448196

              Don't blame me for voting for him...I'm not that stupid.

                #6.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:00 PM EST
                agagnu

                As an American; albeit from a mixed race of African and white rapist slavemaster, Michelle Obama LOVES her country but does not have to be PROUD of it at any one time. Ask Palin's parents who love her but at times they are not proud of her and this may be the moment.

                • 4 votes
                #6.5 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:19 PM EST
                Profchaos

                he hadn't even won his party's nomination

                was he winning primaries? those are elections...

                • 1 vote
                #6.6 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:13 PM EST
                ivanho75

                Profchaos-

                "hell her husband was a community organizer." -

                Barack Hussein Obama was a professor of constituional law for 12 years. TWELVE YEARS!! I am getting sick of the strawman that he was "only a community organizer." Google is not hard to use people!!!

                He was an ACTUAL professor. Not just in his newsvine handle.

                • 5 votes
                #6.7 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:21 PM EST
                davetopper

                He is also the leader of this country, John McCain and Sarah lost lest they forget. Not only that these parrots talk of Obama's leadership skills yet and at the same time defending someone who, say it with me......

                QUIT

                Some leadership skill there.

                • 4 votes
                #6.8 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:47 PM EST
                Reply
                Ray-1033782

                Didn't take 3 minutes for the names to start. What you afraid of, yellowdog, the truth?

                • 4 votes
                Reply#7 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:18 AM EST
                yellowdog-1220329

                "You are allowed your own opinion, but not your own truth." Patrick Moynihan

                Squirrel was just an observation as to the content of your diatribe, and persecution complex referred to your repeated expectation of being deleted. Can you argue that your comments were off subject and designed to distract from the subject and that you almost have a death wish to be deleted to prove that you are being persecuted by the seeder?

                • 16 votes
                #7.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:51 AM EST
                Ray-1033782

                No, Dog, but when you use someone's words against them, you need to put the whole truth out there. Early on, about 1 or 2 comments in we were sternly warned that CoH would be strictly enforced. I take that as a threat, real or perceived, that if you dissagree you are out. Plain English, go read it. I am edited on some sites because I do disagree. However, My statements about not being proud of your Nation, and the destruction your Party has rent on it, stand. Long written but right there.

                • 2 votes
                #7.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:05 AM EST
                Fletch2-1565982

                Ray, most seeders place this at the top of this page. It's their way of asking us to behave like adults.

                While the subject of this article may invoke impassioned commentaries and opinions, the thread of dialogue will be conducted under strict CoH. Violations will be promtly deleted.

                Long winded squirrel with a persecution complex!

                Didn't take 3 minutes for the names to start. What you afraid of, yellowdog, the truth?

                I did not see a CoH violation. But it's typical. I am a victim if you do not agree with me. Are you still a victim if I told you I did not read your rant, because it was totally off topic? I suggest you get your own soapbox and get off Rick's.

                BTW.....Great job Rick. I enjoy your honesty.

                • 13 votes
                #7.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:22 PM EST
                Ray-1033782

                I'm in about 30 seeded pages, and this is one of the FEW I remember having this "Disclaimer", and, they were ALL from the left, and they ALL did nothing but attack with hate the people that disagree with them. I did not say the seeder hated, but the way he twisted Sara's and Michelle's words to suit his argument is classic Leftist propaganda, and as we see here, so many of you just suck it up as facts, never checking the real story.
                The biggest problem here is that you Leftisit's got your lunch fed to ya in Nov. and all you can do now is whine, cry, and discredit(poorly) those that will run you out in 2012. Get used to it, because you and Soros fear of us is plain, and you just can't handle that, can ya? I did earn my rights, and those of others, but tell me, how have you served YOUR Nation, other than destroying the good earned that you and your's abuse daily, and want to see die.

                • 1 vote
                #7.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:48 PM EST
                Vlad's dog

                I was born with my rights, didn't need to serve anyone or anything to gain them. But thanks for protecting my rights, I'll do the same thing, protect your rights.

                • 7 votes
                #7.5 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:03 AM EST
                davetopper

                I applaud you Ray for your sacrifice so people of this nation can be free.

                Free to be subject to all kinds of indignation at the air ports, humiliated in public for doing nothing by the TSA.

                Free to be pulled over at countless stops along the roads especially in Arizona ( just for being a different color no less ) all in the name of national security.

                Yep, you fought for freedom. Liberty was lost, but there you go.

                • 7 votes
                #7.6 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:10 PM EST
                ivanho75

                Holy f87K Ray.

                Now you trot out the "Diabolical Lie" logical fallacy with George Soros. Not to mention it is a total strawman. From out of left field you interject George Soros into the conversation and make the implication that all democrats are somehow associated with George Soros. Then you insinuate that pointing out this "fact" is some sort of legitimate critique of a position.

                The Diabolical Lie goes like this -

                "George Soros is inherently evil, wrong, unamerican." "Anybody who shares a viewpoint that George Soros MIGHT have is also is also evil, wrong, and unamerican."

                Even if you are bested in an argument, you can always claim that it is evil sophistry at work since no viewpoint possibly held by George Soros comes from the devil. It has the added convenience of being an unfalseafiable argument, which most good illogical arguments have in their favor.

                Then you anonymously boast about your patriotic service, which anybody can do since it can't be substantiated online.

                • 5 votes
                #7.7 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:33 PM EST
                Reply
                Roryanne

                Never mind what Palin said or didn't say about the first lady.

                M. Obama saying this about America, is offensive to me:

                ""Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices; we are going to have to change our conversation; we're going to have to change our traditions, our history; we're going to have to move into a different place as a nation."

                My answer to M Obama is the opposite of the election chant: "No, you can't", and I'd like to add, "No, you won't!"

                • 6 votes
                Reply#8 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:27 AM EST
                Motherlessgoat

                Well, Roryanne, pretty much everything you say is offensive to this American citizen. The vitriolic hate for our duly elected President, and for your fellow citizens that did that electing, is nauseating.

                Let me ask you this...

                While the rest of the globe leaps forward in science, technology, economics, human rights, etc, you're frothing and fighting to stay the same, stagnating, rotting while wrapped in "traditions"? Just where have those "traditions" lead us?

                We MUST change, keeping the status quo - that of Wall Street Greed and "F*$^ Off, I've got mine!" charity, different equates evil - will only lead the US to 3rd world status.

                Or perhaps that is precisely what you wish for this country, to be a world power has-been, so long as our "Conservative values" are still oppressing others, and the income gap ever widens.

                To you I say, "No, you can't" and most emphatically, "No , you won't."

                mlg

                • 24 votes
                #8.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:49 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                Hello Motherlessgoat (kool name). To those who blindly say "No you can't and no you won't," I would say Yes we would if anti-American Conservative Obstructionism would cease in derailing progress in our legislature. 106 Republican filibusters this year alone. When you put party power before national development and the very well-being of a people, and further DARE to call for armed insurrection if the democratic process does not favor your agenda, I'd call that Treason.

                • 21 votes
                #8.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:09 AM EST
                Roryanne

                Unlike the vitriolic hate from women for Sarah Palin. Do people really use that word? i would use jealousy and envy, from how I am seeing it.

                You have no one to blame but yourself if you voted for Obama, for this:

                the rest of the globe leaps forward in science, technology

                after Obama relegated NASA to muslim outreach and scrapped the next phase which would take American astronsuts, back to the moon and then on to Mars.

                Becoming nauseatingly PC is not the same as human rights.

                The left are the ones who believe that blacks have equal rights now, and that it's time to push others passed what they think blacks in America have achieved with the Civil Rights movement.

                Blacks are still discriminated against in this country, even though Obama was elected president.

                But the left is now placing ILLEGAL immigrants rights above the rights of blacks who were born in this country, along with whites, and everyone else, America's legal immigrants.

                The race card is SO played.

                The Wall Street one has worn out its welcome, as well.

                The American taxpayers did not want the bailout, any of the bailouts, which was evident in the results of the midterm elections.

                The "greedy, it's all mine"? Also old and worn out, especially when it is coming from the "What's in it for ME crowd?"

                Obama is attempting to turn America into a 3rd world country.

                For someone you place so high up on a pedestal, you really don't pay much attenttion to the person you duly elected, or to what he's doing, do you?

                All you're saying is: he's good, he's a fine man, Obama's good.

                • 2 votes
                #8.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:03 PM EST
                HollyKl

                Actually, Roryanne, the word is vitriolic and yes, people do use it. Though perhaps not in the context that you provided. (Oh, guess you corrected the misspelling from bitriolic to vitriolic while I was posting my initial comment.)

                • 13 votes
                #8.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:07 PM EST
                RoryanneExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Oh, and Rick, read my comment above.

                Additionally:

                anti-American Conservative Obstructionism

                is that equal to, or worse than the anti war left's make love/don't work liberalism or is it more like the peace/free love/free dope which now translates into free everything for me liberal demands?

                • 3 votes
                #8.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:11 PM EST
                Rick Basora

                May you never find yourself in dire straights beacuse a corrupt administration undermined the very foundations of your world.

                • 17 votes
                #8.6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:21 PM EST
                Joanna Caroll

                Well, Roryanne, pretty much everything you say is offensive to this American citizen.

                Oh, Mother, ain't that the truth. If ugly had a picture......

                • 11 votes
                #8.7 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:50 PM EST
                Ted 050247

                Rick-outstanding post. FR sent.

                Can we be sure Sarah Palin gets your letter? Then can we be sure she is capable of understanding it?? LOL

                Thank you!!!!

                • 7 votes
                #8.8 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:01 PM EST
                agagnu

                how about the saying, "bless your little black heart", Sarah Palin. That's where ugliness lies.

                • 1 vote
                #8.9 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:27 PM EST
                Reply
                Ray-1033782

                Thanks, Roryanne, must be way too early for the screamin' whinin' Left to be up, but look back later, and their forces will try to shout us down, and we bury them with their own words, gotta love it!!!!

                • 6 votes
                Reply#9 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:35 AM EST
                Roryanne

                They don't care, they want America and Americans, to change as well.

                The PC police have already shown us that.

                I think the women on the left are especially obsessed with everythihng Palin, but the men on the left still sound like sexists when they talk about her.

                • 5 votes
                #9.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:44 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                No, Ray. No burial. I still await an answer to my question.

                In the meantime, what would be FAIR would be to read Michelle Obama's words literally without injecting hyperbole, suppositions or interpretations.

                • 16 votes
                #9.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:46 AM EST
                Roryanne

                If you're speaking about the quote I mentioned, we did believe she meant it literally. It's already happening.

                • 5 votes
                #9.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:49 AM EST
                HollyKl

                Roryanne, the women on the left think Palin is an opportunistic twit. We are not obsessed, we are nauseated.

                • 19 votes
                #9.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:05 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                There is a special place in hell for women who do not help other women. ~Madeleine K. Albright

                • 19 votes
                #9.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:13 AM EST
                Ray-1033782

                Rick, my answer should be plain. The quote from your article, "her" words, is she was never proud of America before. No, Ray. No burial. I still await an answer to my question.

                In the meantime, what would be FAIR would be to read Michelle Obama's words literally without injecting hyperbole, suppositions or interpretations.

                In the meantime, I'm not burying a thing, but, telling you exactly what we, White and Black, suffered to gain those Civil Rights. They were long coming, and barred by the Democrats until Kennedy/Johnson. I know the fight, I walked it for my Black friends because I saw the injustice. I am not burying a thing. If she wasn't proud of America before Hubby was nominated, just what was she standing for? It wasn't as the revisionists say an entirely Black/White issue for Civil Rights. It was the South refusing those rights, mainly, and yes the Evil was in ALL the States. We that saw that evil went against our Parents in some cases to fight for those rights. If she can't admit that, and be proud that this Nation finally righted the wrong that would have kept her muzzled in the 50s and before, and still does in some areas, then just what was she proud of? It appears by her Not Proud statement that she is in fact not realizing the strife and growth fought for by those Americans that saw the wrong and wanted it righted. If you think or feel that the issue was only a Black/White issue, you would be wrong. There are many who couldn't live freely, White and Black, that were killed, wounded, and kept unemployed because they were "Sympathizers" to the rights of ALL. Sorry, I can't accept her statement of lack of pride that we Americans before her or Hubby can't accept. She has the right to speak, but not all the blood for her to enjoy that right was, or has been, Black. Better ask her why she was so ashamed of us before you try to blast someone for quoting her words. Context? I see the revising of her words being done4 as we speak. Context is what you say, how and when you say it, and her Not Proud statement spits in the eye of any and all Citizens that fought for her rights, on and off the Battlefield.

                • 2 votes
                #9.6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:19 AM EST
                RoryanneExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Holly, from what I've been reading, men on the left should probably not be so obsessed with a young woman, who dances on a reality show.

                That borders on something else, entirely. Uh oh...

                • 4 votes
                #9.7 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:31 AM EST
                G. H.

                Off Topic.

                • 9 votes
                #9.8 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:45 PM EST
                Joanna Caroll

                G.H. or simply off!

                • 7 votes
                #9.9 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:28 PM EST
                Stand up, speak out

                HollyKl

                Roryanne, the women on the left think Palin is an opportunistic twit. We are not obsessed, we are nauseated.

                Roryanne, this man on the left thinks Palin is an opportunist twit and the thought of her as female that the bagger men adore is amussing. Doesn't do a thing for me.

                • 4 votes
                #9.10 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:34 PM EST
                Reply
                magnoliaave

                Wow! The pot calling the kettle black! It is pretty blatant on NV to call Ms. Palin anything and everything by those of you who don't happen to like the lady. Sorry, Ms. Obama, said it. She isn't proud that she and her husband received outstanding educations? She isn't proud that the U.S. did fulfill Dr. King's dream? She isn't proud to be a U.S.citizen and have the freedoms that our ancestors fought for? If it took her husband to win the nomination and become president of the U.S., for her to proud, then, I, for one, am ashamed that she is First Lady.

                • 6 votes
                #10 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:54 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                Do you truly believe that Michelle should have been proud of a nation that required a CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT of MILLIONS to wrench from its bigoted grip the inalienable rights that were granted to her BY A GOD, and bestowed upon her as a human birth-right?

                • 18 votes
                #10.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:15 AM EST
                Lola-984242

                magnoliaave,

                Can you see the difference between these two paragraphs;

                “What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback and let me tell you something, For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I have seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues. It has made me proud.”

                Michelle actually said this;

                “What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback and let me tell you something, For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I have seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues. It has made me proud.”

                First Lady Michelle Obama has always been proud of our country in her adult life, however when her husband was tapped to run for President, she along with many other Americans, found new hope and became "really" proud of our country. The patriotism's the same there's just some renewed hope when the word "really" was used.

                • 18 votes
                #10.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:35 AM EST
                magnoliaave

                I read your comment above. Yes, I do. Emphatically, yes, I do. If this statement she made was based on her deep seated injustices in regards to black civil rights, then, how can her feelings toward all of us not have racial tones? There are many injustices thrown around for people of all colors. My opinion is....the mouth is a dangerous tool and if one uses it to its disadvantage, then, be prepared for the consequences.

                • 3 votes
                #10.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:40 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                Hi Magnoliaave. I was a registered Republican that switched to the Democratic party 14 years ago. That means that, if I feel that my party affiliation is inconsistent with my values, I've no problem looking elsewhere for a political home. This says that I insist on having an open mind to reality. With that said, and with the understanding that I am truly about to ask a question because I would like to see the subject, not only through my eyes, but through yours as well, I would ask the following:

                Where, in Michelle Obama's statement, do you see or perceive a racial overtone? If you don't, are you presupposing that she must necessarily have one?

                • 15 votes
                #10.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:58 AM EST
                magnoliaave

                My response was to your citing the Civil Rights Movement, etc.

                Honestly, I saw no racial tones in her statement. But, was offended by her statement. Reason: I have ALWAYS been proud of the U.S. whether or not I disagreed with issues. My ancestors fought for our independence as well as one of them penning the Declaration of Independence. To have the potential First Lady say that "this was the first time in her adult life.." was truly offensive to ME! It has nothing to do with political parties....it's love for our Country.

                • 2 votes
                #10.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:11 AM EST
                Lola-984242

                magnoliaave

                "this was the first time in her adult life.." she's really proud

                "this was the first time in her adult life.." she's proud

                Two totally different statements and meanings.

                was truly offensive to ME!

                Not to ME! because I clearly understood what she said and meant.

                • 14 votes
                #10.6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:31 AM EST
                RoryanneExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Also, their blatant jealousy and envy for Sarah Palin, now spilling over onto her children makes them more...obvious. I've never seen a group of cattier females than the men and women on the left who tore a 16 year old to shreds with their words, as I've seen from the left.

                • 3 votes
                #10.7 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:34 AM EST
                magnoliaave

                Lola...I guess you are a mindreader! It is all supposition on your part. She said one thing and you interpreted it for us. She could have said....I have always been proud of my country, but today, I am particularly proud. No, she said what she said....no interpretation required.

                • 1 vote
                #10.8 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:40 AM EST
                Roryanne

                Lola: I clearly understood what she meant as well. I only have one question for her. It's an oldie but a goodie:

                If you don't love and/or take pride in being an American, why don't you leave America?

                That would be a win/win for all of us.

                It worked in the 60's for the "baby-killer" crowd as well as it works today for the temper tantrums radical groups are now throwing, because Obama hasn't been radicalized enough, in their minds.

                If you've read anyting on what's been going on in the progressives' corner, you'd know they are planning to hold their breath until their faces turn blue, if Obama doesn't do what he's doing to the country, as much or as quickly as they paid him to do.

                • 3 votes
                #10.9 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:14 PM EST
                Lola-984242

                magnoliaav- Lola...I guess you are a mindreader! It is all supposition on your part. She said one thing and you interpreted it for us.

                LOL! If I'm a mind reader what would that make you? You're interpreting it differently that what she actually said. There's no mind reading needed on my part, however I see that your interpretive spin is head at work here.

                She could have said....I have always been proud of my country, but today, I am particularly proud.

                Perhaps you should become a speech writer.

                No, she said what she said....no interpretation required.

                Yes she said what she said and I support what she said, YOUR misinterpretation is NOT required.

                Roryanne - If you don't love and/or take pride in being an American, why don't you leave America?

                *rolls eyes* What a ridiculous question.

                • 18 votes
                #10.10 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:36 PM EST
                magnoliaave

                No 'mam, Lola............the words....they are in English....this is the first time in my adult life....not in Spanish, Italian, French or whatever. I interpreted the English words as spoken and written. Do I need to go word for word as in adjectives, verbs, etc.?

                On the speech writing comment....funny you should mention that....

                • 1 vote
                #10.11 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:11 PM EST
                kj031056-1

                Lola, I had a feeling I should have read further before responding.....as usual we are on the exact same wavelength......the "really" makes her sentence, without it, you have Fox talking points, with it you have the truth of what she actually said......

                • 12 votes
                #10.12 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:00 PM EST
                Lola-984242

                kj, LOL! Great minds think alike, and as you can see from those who can not comprehend simple sentences and/or words, simple minds think alike too. I so believe there are some folks here that should go word for word as in nouns, adjectives, verbs, and especially adverbs, it may indeed help them.

                • 12 votes
                #10.13 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:04 PM EST
                G. H.

                Words are just words if not used in context. Context includes *SENTENCES*, you have to hear or read the entire sentence to understand the word usage, NOT *sound bites*. Ask Breightbart about *editing*.

                • 12 votes
                #10.14 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:04 PM EST
                Rick Basora

                KJ, Lola, G.H - You just made my day. Up until now, this thread consisted of clear pro and clear con folks. This is what it's about. When open minded, intelligent dialogue yields understanding. Thank you for the privilege. If and when you can, pay it forward.

                • 12 votes
                #10.15 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:35 PM EST
                G. H.

                Rick, you DO have SOME intelligent women reading your piece! LOL We all appreciate you, too.♥

                • 8 votes
                #10.16 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:00 PM EST
                Stand up, speak out

                But there's also a couple of readers with, ah, ah, questionable? intelligence.

                • 5 votes
                #10.17 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:30 PM EST
                ivanho75

                Roryanne - Telling people to get out because they don't agree with you is about as unamerican as it gets. That is the viewpoint of tyrannical nations. Do you know what jingoism is? It's that blind unadulterated patriotism that goes "USA! USA! We're #1 We're #!!!" regardless of ANYTHING that happens. It requires ZERO critical thought. It also demonizes people who are more tempered in their zeal. You do realize that blind fanatical nationalism was a major driving force behind WWII, don't you?

                What is wrong with loving your country for what it has done and not because of a geographical fluke? If Michelle Obama, as a BLACK person, finally feels really proud as an American, far be it for me as a WHITE person to try and project what I think her feelings on patriotism should be. This is acknowledging the reality that there is a difference between peoples experience of being an American because of race.

                • 4 votes
                #10.18 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:45 PM EST
                davetopper

                Are you proud of your country Roryanne? Try out this little slice. I am not proud of a country that spits in the face of those that have served it.

                986 first responders to the clean up and rescue detail of 9/11 have DIED. And the senate has cast a vote to give these people the help they need. Republicans all voted against this and one is holding up the swing and stalling the vote. There is no excuse for that.

                There may be, and there may not be things in this country that make me more or less proud of it , but there certainly is a people in this country that make me SICK.

                Mock me, call me a liberal, I take it in pride because I am sure damned proud of myself that I am no where near, in personality and thought, any of you flag waving fools.

                • 10 votes
                #10.19 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:21 PM EST
                js-445607

                Well written comments davetopper. Thank you.

                • 7 votes
                #10.20 - Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:41 AM EST
                davetopper

                It comes from the heart js, my compassion. It is a perception that I have but I believe it to be true, that people like myself see things the way they are, and people on the right see things the way they want them to be.

                There is a terminology called cognitive dissonance. You are probably aware of it, the feeling of knowing something you feel to be true also understanding that it is wrong.

                Some people seem to have a different terminology that can be applied to them, cognitive resonance. Meaning that they have told themselves the same lie so many times that to them it is a gospel truth.

                This drives a lot of them crazy but I end quite a few of my comments with this, and it can also be applied to cognitive resonance,,,,

                It helps them sleep at night.

                • 6 votes
                #10.21 - Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:30 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it...." - Adolf Hitler

                • 4 votes
                #10.22 - Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:09 AM EST
                js-445607

                davetopper I understand this quite well. I've known quite a few personalities amazingly capable of strong conviction stubbornness to yield ideas and concepts. Even if we offer them many avenues and paths to see the concept openly and for what it is they refuse to budge. There are successes however so I keep handing out pieces of the puzzle I have found and hope that they enjoy clues and the ability to create a brand new image that will perhaps unlock their minds.

                • 3 votes
                #10.23 - Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:15 AM EST
                Reply
                careforcaregivers

                A well written piece that Sarah might not be able to understand. In any case, just as the Oxford American Dictionary committee has elevated her, by approving her ignorantly concocted word, I think there are enough people who will shout one thing, but with their powerful silent actions demonstrate what they mean.

                Black people have been calling on the dictionary Corporations for decades to remove the dehumanizing, intentionally malicious meanings they have applied to the word Black as it applies to people, yet they have refused. Black children are expected to not feel the daily puncturing to their Spirits that Western books (including the Bible) inflicts.

                So while some may see and point out the hypocrisy of the likes of Sarah Palin, she will still be rewarded by the powerful who will reward anyone brave enough to try to return black people to the place that says we don't have the right to express our feelings on our unique American experience.

                So I say that if Sarah Palin runs in the next election she would win. And I pray that she does; because only such a disaster will cause a very large percentage of Americans to see that its not good to "cut off their noses to spite their face".

                • 7 votes
                Reply#11 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:12 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                Hello careforcaregivers. I see and understand what you are saying. However, with the current general state of the nation, we might not recover from that.

                • 12 votes
                #11.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:20 AM EST
                Reply
                BLOGER-486140

                Honestly do you really think Sarah writes this stuff. She is nothing more thant a mouthpiece.

                • 12 votes
                Reply#12 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:19 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                Absolutely. I agree. That's why I refer to her "puppeteers."

                • 14 votes
                #12.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:31 AM EST
                Smc31569

                @ magnoliaave .... yet another genius (cough cough ) who flunked reading comprehension in grade school.


                • 5 votes
                #12.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:21 PM EST
                Reply
                Vlad's dog

                Boy, it is a bees nest today out here in Sarah Land. I love a good bee invasion.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#13 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:47 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                Hi Vlad's dog. Much buzzzzzzzzzz!

                • 8 votes
                #13.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:01 AM EST
                Reply
                magnoliaave

                Lola, how many times does her "official" quote have to be displayed? She said, for the first time in her adult life she is proud...............Then, you say, she has always been proud of the U.S. in her adult life. Which one is it?

                • 1 vote
                Reply#14 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:48 AM EST
                Phazfun

                magnoliaave

                Ummmm, both. You didn't read the article? See link under quotes or link at top of page "attacking our first lady".

                Clarified- saying she has always been proud of her country.

                And let me tell you something--for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country.

                http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/sarah-palin-goes-after-michelle-obama-new-book

                • 10 votes
                #14.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:23 PM EST
                Lola-984242

                Do you have a comprehension problem magnoliaave?

                "I am proud of my country"

                However after her husband was tapped for the Democratic Presidential nominee she became;

                "I am really proud of my country."

                Always proud, she just became "really" proud at that point.

                Is that easier for you to understand? See the difference in the two comments.

                How about this analogy; "Today I'm cold, but tomorrow when the temperature lowers I get "really" cold."

                See, at both times I'm cold, but at one point I'm "really" cold, not that I was never cold, I was always cold, I just became "really" (more) cold. If you can't understand it now than you fail reading comprehension and I give up, you should move along your incorrect interpretive spin.

                • 14 votes
                #14.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:52 PM EST
                magnoliaave

                You are so funny, Lola....I require no interpreter, but it is pretty obvious that you believe what you believe. And, I do, as well. Perhaps, Ms. Obama, should take you around with you to be her interpreter. Good job, good pay!

                • 1 vote
                #14.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:17 PM EST
                Fletch2-1565982

                For God sake mangnoliaave, please oh please take some English comprehension classes. It's not a matter of belief. Believe anything you want but don't lie and misrepresent what someone else says.

                It is very obvious you want to believe the worst of the First Lady, and feel the need to deliberately misinterpret her words to satisfy those needs.

                She could have said....I have always been proud of my country, but today, I am particularly proud.

                If she used the words and the sentences you like or choose to understand, it's ok. But, I am sure had she said that, you would find a way to twist and misinterpret it.

                • 11 votes
                #14.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:45 PM EST
                Smc31569

                Fletch...Republicans don't need facts, figures or to read actual words. They just 'believe' whatever the hell they want because they have no comprehension skills, no capabililty for reason and logic. This is why they also believe in religion and myth and not truth and fact. they think that if they 'believe' something hard enough it becomes real / truth / fact. They are a scary lot for certain. The blind following the blind, the dumb becoming ever dumber. Palin is their 'hero' because she's also in the double digit IQ club.

                • 9 votes
                #14.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:48 PM EST
                Reply
                Sonia Kermaz

                Although millions of aging middle schoolers share Sarah Palin's concept of an "adult lifetime", it's possible that some of their children will outgrow it.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#15 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:55 AM EST
                magnoliaave

                Although millions of aging middle schoolers share Sarah Palin's concept of an "adult lifetime", it's possible that some of their children will outgrow it.

                It is really sad that some people posting on NV do not have their ID's checked for verification that they meet the age requirements.

                • 1 vote
                #15.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:01 AM EST
                Sonia Kermaz

                Magnoliaave,

                There is no age requirement for understanding that the world is not about "ME."

                • 14 votes
                #15.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:11 PM EST
                Reply
                Ggap

                magnoliaave I, for one, am ashamed that she is First Lady.

                If you except the meaning of her statement that was defined by the troglodytes on fox news, then you are not capable of independent thought. She explained her meaning which was excepted, by the majority, and as proof; she is the First Lady, without your vote, I'm sure. If you wish to opine the reasoning of people of color, than you should possess the aptitude to do so. Your shame is the fact that the First Lady is not White this time.

                • 16 votes
                Reply#16 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:45 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                SPOT ON! Ggap! It would appear to be the single reason that anyone could object to Michelle in the White House. What exactly is there to object? By the way, What she meant seems crystal clear. However, in the hypothetical situation that she really wasn't proud of America, I'm still waiting for one person who is still offended by Michelle Obama's "comment" to answer the following question with thoughtful intelligence.

                Do you truly believe that Michelle should have been proud of a nation that required a CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT of MILLIONS to wrench from its bigoted grip the inalienable rights that were granted to her BY A GOD, and bestowed upon her as a human birth-right?

                • 13 votes
                #16.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:32 PM EST
                magnoliaave

                Rick, have a good day. You guys keep on with the Sarah Palin thing.

                • 1 vote
                #16.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:19 PM EST
                Ggap

                Do you truly believe that Michelle should have been proud of a nation that required a CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT of MILLIONS to wrench from its bigoted grip the inalienable rights that were granted to her BY A GOD, and bestowed upon her as a human birth-right

                To answer honestly, one would be fearful of collective guilt; so by denying that such a period existed in history, it eliminates the accusations of hypocricsy from those that see America as a nation of equal rights as the constitution so states.

                • 8 votes
                #16.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:29 PM EST
                Rick Basora

                Very thought provoking analysis, Ggap. The peril lies in ignoring a history that, in doing so, enables one to repeat it. That would explain this despicable resurgence of openly declared bigotry. I could hardly believe my ears when Rand Paul said that he felt that The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was UNCONSTITUTIONAL!...and he got elected!

                • 12 votes
                #16.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:29 PM EST
                Ggap

                Rick Basora

                Unadulterated logic and intellect is needed in these times of hate and division, your article is very much appreciated.

                • 10 votes
                #16.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:12 PM EST
                Rick Basora

                As are minds like many who come here, like yours in fact, who arrive in the hope of finding kinship in reason, Thank you, my friend. We prove that there is still HOPE!

                • 9 votes
                #16.6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:57 PM EST
                Reply
                AKBER KASSAM

                No one is paying any attention what Sarah Palin's say, she is liar, without any family values.

                NYC.

                • 8 votes
                Reply#17 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:46 AM EST
                Rick Basora

                That would be a mistake, Akber Kassam. We cannot take our eyes of that for a New York minute. HUGE money is being poured into electing the "puppeteerable." You see, Big OIL and the Banks don't care that they pay to elect a Category 5 Moron as long as they have paid for the idiot to vote in the Legislature in a manner that would "SELL" those industries the right to RAPE the people. That's why She's dangerous.

                • 13 votes
                #17.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:54 PM EST
                Reply
                Sally New

                I quite agree with your article. However, I think that you used to many big words. I don't think that Sarah Palin would understand what you have written if (and that is a stretch) she she read it. As far as I am concerned she is an empty headed floozy. I was insulted when the Republican party chose her in response to Hilary Clinton. Mrs Clinton has her detractors but at least she is an intelligent person unlike Mrs. Palin.

                I believe that the only reason Palin was elected to any office in Alaska is that she is a good looking woman in a state that is overwhelming male. They voted with their penises.

                • 13 votes
                Reply#18 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:01 PM EST
                Rick Basora

                Sally, SOMEBODY had to say it! Here's a thought. What would any of us pay to watch a Sarah Palin vs Hillary Clinton debate? I have a viceral angst against the PUMAS. tens of thousands swung Republican against their own best interest, just to protest the selection of Barack Obama by the Superdelegate, over Hillary. I want you to know that many of those women are now fiercely loyal to Palin. Here's a link if you want to begin to track Palin's PUMAS.

                • 11 votes
                #18.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:41 PM EST
                Smc31569

                Sally... I don't think anyone in the entire Rethuglicant party would be able to comprehend such an extensive and intelligent vocabulary.

                Most Rethuglicant's comprehension ability is still : Run, Dick, Run. Run, Jane, run. See Dick and Jane run ! LMAO

                • 9 votes
                #18.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:52 PM EST
                robin-6

                hahhaha, voted with their penises! That IS hilrious and evidently true. It certainly isn't about intellect.

                • 6 votes
                #18.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:48 PM EST
                Smc31569

                Apparently Alaska is full of "dickheads" :)

                • 5 votes
                #18.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:20 AM EST
                Reply
                Mike-2260639

                Rick, looks like you struck a raw nerve with the corporate, theocratic fascist crowd. Kudos!

                • 15 votes
                Reply#19 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:28 PM EST
                Rick Basora

                I knew I would. However, we MUST call TYRANNY by its name. Thanks Mike.

                • 16 votes
                #19.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:43 PM EST
                Mike-2260639

                I posted your letter to my facebook homepage. Hope you don't mind. If you do, I'll have it removed.

                • 4 votes
                #19.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:01 PM EST
                Stand up, speak out

                Ditto, I thought it would help spread the word, but I as well will remove it if you wish.

                • 4 votes
                #19.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:48 PM EST
                Rick Basora

                It is absolutely yours to post, Mike & Stand up. You have my permission and gratitude. It certainly is a humbling honor to know that it may make someone "think!" That's why I included all the linked PROOF-sources. That way, no one can say that it is a piece based on opinions. What I seek is Opinions on the REALITY of Mrs. Palin.

                Thanks all

                • 9 votes
                #19.4 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:53 AM EST
                davetopper

                I knew I would. However, we MUST call TYRANNY by its name. Thanks Mike.

                That is so true. When I have read the mantra of the tea party, look at their flag "don't tread on me" ( snake in the grass, apropos ) their group, and what they are about, I come to see the most fascist thing I think I have ever seen come out of the U.S. at least in my life time.

                They really are something else and their flag bearer, she is NUTS.

                I have to be really careful about what I say in the work place because Sarah Palin was on the cover of USA Today, and I looked at my friend and said "look its our favorite lady". The customer asked if we didn't like Sarah, we said as much as we dare, and she says "that most people dislike Sarah because she is too reasonable". Yea right, whatever helps them sleep at night.

                • 5 votes
                #19.5 - Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:21 PM EST
                Rick Basora

                That's precisely why she's so damn dangerous, Dave. She has mastered the art of the "mind game" like few that I've seen. Most mainstream, Main Street individuals don't understand "the system" and find it daunting... but they can understand BASIC talking point and can sense or have been told to sense that something is politically or economically broken in America. Finding this "girl/lady next door" type who "sounds" like she knows what she's talking about, looks like one of the "popular" girls, way back in school, that wouldn't have given them the time of day, but who has "warp-sped" through time, to "right now," so as to make them feel like she likes and cares about them. That's an incredibly powerful motivator and accepting "the offer" is much easier than having to THINK. Would you like to see just how powerful a motivating manipulation it is? Look at this thread and count the STAUNCH Palin supporters who maintain that level of almost maniacal allegiance, in the face of the overwhelming evidence of her corruption presented in this very article. In fact, I know of many that refuse to even read such things because they would then be forced to perform that gruesome task; THINK!

                Ponder this. What would that subject have given, back in school, to have been accepted by a Sarah-Barracuda-type and her clique? Follow that vein of analysis, and it even explains why her followers refuse to act on or question her malfeasances, however egregious they may be. Palin doesn't seem to know much of anything else...but she does know that kind of manipulation. That she can deploy it across state lines is truly scary.

                That's why educating our apathetic and prodigiously STUPID electorate needs to be our first line of defense starting NOW. If after being armed with FACTS, they still persist in their conservative support, well then, SO BE IT!...but I have a gut feeling that an electorate innoculated with facts, will choose differently.

                • 4 votes
                #19.6 - Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:04 AM EST
                davetopper

                I can add to this later, just stumbled across this now. But as far as the staunch Sarah Palin supporters on this thread, they are outnumbered and out thought.

                We know what she is.

                At their core, these Sarah Palin supporters are conservative/republican. They can hee haw all over that until Sunday, but I think it remains true.

                I wouldn't say that thinking is a gruesome task but I do think that some people lack the intellectual curiosity to do it.

                I hold out the saving grace that the elephants in the room will trample the snakes in the grass including Sarah. They were dumb enough to let it slide once but I do not think they will do it again. You know the McCain/Palin ticket. I have know idea what they were thinking. Even with him, I don't know.

                But I think they know enough now and have figured out as best they can, lacking that curiosity, that Palin is bad for their image, was, has been, and always will be.

                Her staunch supporters are just grabbing onto to something. Hell, I don't think there is a progressive liberal alive that has ever done that. We're losing our grip when it comes to Obama, to be truthful about it. They just grab on.

                Helps them sleep at night.

                • 6 votes
                #19.7 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:25 AM EST
                AlanA0720

                Bravo Dave, Bravo.

                • 3 votes
                #19.8 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:02 AM EST
                Reply
                cece meyer

                Your thoughts concerning the offensive remarks regarding our first lady are right on target. Thank you.

                • 10 votes
                Reply#20 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:41 PM EST
                Rick Basora

                ...and thank you, cece meyer, for caring enough to have joined The Vine and lend your voice to Democracy. Apathy cost us this last election and, if we persist, apathy will cost us a lethal Neo-Conservative sweep in 2012.

                • 11 votes
                #20.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:57 PM EST
                Ray-1033782

                No, the only thing we didn't accomplish the last election is kicking more out and refilling the Government with actual American that believe in our Constitution. Some uninformed folks did re-elect/elect Liberals, but your hey day is soon to close. We have seen the enemy, and it is Liberalism. But, we will change that very soon. In spite of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and all you other Anti American everything is a handout Libs. See ya, I'm moving to an intellegent Blog.

                  #20.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:34 PM EST
                  TruettCollins

                  Thank you for proving that there are still people like discussed in #1.20...maybe one day you will get tired of simply taking the word you hear from the same type of people and actually investigate and learn what you are talking about.

                  • 7 votes
                  #20.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:37 PM EST
                  Rick Basora

                  SPOT ON, TruettCollins. I just don't know how we are going to rouse and educate those people.

                  Ray, my problem with those "faux" Constitutionalists, coincidentally like Palin, baby Palin, Huckabee, rand Paul, etc., is that they are known to toss the word around freely because it evokes a sense of "safety" in their under-informed hosts. Later, and settled into a comfort zone, you will find these "Constitutionalists" proposin that the 1st Amendment be re-interpreted, that the 14th, 16th and 17th Amendments should be repealed and that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is Unconstitutional....NOT ON MY WATCH!

                  • 12 votes
                  #20.4 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:09 PM EST
                  picturethis3

                  Sounds like a desperate house-wife trying to sneak into WH again.

                  • 4 votes
                  #20.5 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:25 PM EST
                  Ted 050247

                  Don't ya just love those teabaggers that screech about the constitution then plan to shred the parts that don't suit them.

                  Yep-they are fake Americans. What a crew.

                  • 10 votes
                  #20.6 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:14 PM EST
                  mikebank

                  Ray, so WHO are the actual Americans? And who decided this?

                  • 1 vote
                  #20.7 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:34 AM EST
                  Mike-2260639

                  mikebank,

                  so WHO are the actual Americans? And who decided this?

                  Obviously only the corporate, theocratic fascists are the "actual Americans" to Ray. Anyone with the slightest hint of liberal thought in this country is the enemy to these people. To them ALL liberals are blood suckers. They want to create a culture war in this country and with the help of their fascist media talking heads constantly pounding their version of reality into the skulls of their sheep, they are gaining empowerment. The middle is lost in this vortex of hate and loathing. I bet they even puke on the liberal leaning soldiers that fight and have fought and died along side with their right and moderate leaning brothers and sisters in past and present conflicts engaged by this country.

                  In a time when this country and its citizens, ALL of them, need to be united and working together, there seems to be a persistent agenda by many to tear us apart. Indeed! Who are the actual Americans?

                  • 3 votes
                  #20.8 - Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:44 AM EST
                  Reply
                  ScienceGuy-356641

                  Once again, Palin has shown herself to be shallow, ignorant, irrational, delusional, petty, and vindictive -- in short, everything that the tea party seeks in a political candidate.

                  • 17 votes
                  Reply#21 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:13 PM EST
                  Rick Basora

                  Hi ScienceGuy. It just seems that everything that this Tea-Party Right does is counterintuitive to every best interest of our country. I wrote an article a week or so ago that showcased how Europe considers them to be an "idiot-horde" along with the American electorate that overwhelmingly supported their agenda. Is it any wonder that the reception that Barack Obama is receiving oversees is tepid at best. These IDIOTS are attempting to block the ratification of The START Treaty! Do you know how far back that can set America in the arena of global control of nuclear arms proliferations. These Conservative Nut-Jobs can take us back to the days of Kennedy-Kruschev. I'm beside myself!

                  • 14 votes
                  Reply#22 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:35 PM EST
                  steven-791492

                  Well said.... sadly logic, reason, and good sense have no place in Palins tiny world.

                  Thanks for the seed.

                  • 13 votes
                  Reply#23 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:47 PM EST
                  Rick Basora

                  There you go makin' sense again! I've warned you about that, Steve-791492 (LOL)! Thank you, my friend.

                  • 10 votes
                  #23.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:07 PM EST
                  steven-791492

                  Please accept a friend request.

                  • 7 votes
                  #23.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:40 PM EST
                  Rick Basora

                  I already did, My New Friend. I am humbled.

                  • 7 votes
                  #23.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:11 PM EST
                  Reply
                  Lycan American

                  OMG, Rick! I left a post for js and Robin at Vlad;s dog's, yesterday, and told them to expect something from you on Palin and her classless disrespect of Michelle Obama. Nothing could have prepared me for your letter. This is the kind of thing that, if she reads it, will send her running to tweet for the support of her sisterhood because, as she always says, "My enemies are trying to destroy me."

                  Palin needs to forget politics, keep up with The "Moose-Mania" show and mind her kids. There's some disturbing things on the web about them. It's time she put the "Momma" in the Momma Grizzly.

                  Great job, YODA (LOL)! TAKE THAT, DITCH!

                  • 16 votes
                  Reply#24 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:50 PM EST
                  Rick Basora

                  Hey Lycan, I was wondering when I would see your tail-wagging self. I'm glad that you approve of the piece. That was nothing short of 'Bullying" on the part of Palin. She knows that Michelle has too much CLASS and a sense of "protocol" to engage her. My wildest dream is that, somehow, this piece does get to the hands of Sarah. Not that I think that it would make her think about her behavior, but one can hope.

                  • 12 votes
                  #24.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:23 PM EST
                  Reply
                  Swallowdale

                  Viewing this debate from a neutral perch in Canada, ( we are so happy that we didn’t get Alaska) I feel very sorry for my American friends who have to endure the racist, hate-filled lies and craziness of Fox News carnival barkers like Palin and Beck, and the rantings of Rush Limbaugh. Great Letter Rick|

                  • 14 votes
                  Reply#25 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:04 PM EST
                  Rick Basora

                  Thanks, Swallowdale. Be careful. I've heard that Beck has devised a way to squirt essence of TEA through cable boxes. They say that the old "box" TVs are the worst. However, plasmas and LCDs will send a "Buy Beck-Gold" subliminal signal. I read somewhere that if you put an egg in front of the set, and if it's still white after 10 minutes, your good!

                  Don't rub it in. We're stuck with these !@#@$%$# and we don't even know how or when the "sticking" began!

                  • 13 votes
                  #25.1 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:15 PM EST
                  Jorge-2191028Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  Swallow

                  Canada were PREACHERS are indicted for what the say from the pulpit.

                  Sorry I prefere the OPEN debate of the USA to the GOVT controlled debate of canada

                  • 3 votes
                  #25.2 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:37 PM EST
                  Ted 050247

                  ever been to Canada? I didn't think so.

                  You know nothing

                  • 3 votes
                  #25.3 - Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:32 PM EST
                  Jorge-2191028

                  "I know nothing"

                  really....

                  From CBC news out of calagary

                  http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2007/11/30/boissoin-ruling.html

                  A former pastor and the Christian group he belonged to broke Alberta's human rights law by writing an anti-gay letter published in a Red Deer newspaper, a panel ruled Friday.

                  In 2002, Stephen Boissoin wrote a letter to the editor of the Red Deer Advocate that compared gay people to pedophiles and drug dealers. It was published under the headline "Homosexual agenda wicked."

                  another case 2008 Pastor Stephen Boisson was order by "Human rights commission" to stop preaching against homsexuality.

                  Google Stephen Boisson was much reported on but I will provide you linke of LIBERAL Huggington post who discussed the case.

                  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eugene-volokh/stop-all-disparaging-rema_b_106360.html

                  I suggest your research "Bill C-250 which amends the federal hate crimes law to include speech against sexual orientation."

                  here is how the Boston GLOBE reported "Canadas "clampdown on free speech"

                  http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/03/27/canadas_clampdown_on_free_speech/

                  In 2006, the now-defunct Western Standard magazine reprinted the Danish cartoons that sparked riots across Europe and the Muslim world. Ezra Levant, publisher of the magazine (where I was a reporter), was called before a hearing with the Alberta Human Rights Commission.

                  More from the same Boston Globe article

                  Worse, the legal restrictions on free speech have contributed to a climate where freedom of thought and speech is considered a disposable value. During a 2008 case examining a white supremacist, a lead investigator for the Human Rights Commission was asked what value she gave to the freedom of speech. She responded: “Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value. It’s not my job to give value to an American concept.’’

                  Apparently you dont know what your talking about..

                  • 1 vote
                  #25.4 - Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:38 PM EST
                  badchess

                  I like Canadians, but am sure glad I don't live under their system of government. I kind of like the whole free speech thing...

                  • 1 vote
                  #25.5 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:43 PM EST
                  Stand up, speak out

                  I wasn't aware that the Canadian's rights were being suppressed.

                  • 5 votes
                  #25.6 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:00 PM EST
                  davetopper

                  Canada has been under their idea of conservatives, The Tories for sometime now. So it does stand to figure, lose some liberty for a little safety.

                  Not long after they took power the gates to the north started getting a whole lot less hospitable. Yea Canada. This is what conservative power does, over loads. Less government by bringing down more. The politics of deceit.

                  • 4 votes
                  #25.7 - Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:10 PM EST
                  Jorge-2191028

                  Dave

                  Liberals had control of canada from 1993-2006,

                  Conservtives " only been in power since 2006

                  This specific law making it a crime to speak out against sexual orientation was passed in 2003.

                  has very little to do with conservatives.

                    #25.8 - Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:09 AM EST
                    davetopper

                    This specific law making it a crime to speak out against sexual orientation was passed in 2003.

                    Not really sure if you are addressing me because I was talking about the Canadian border and how THAT has become less hospitable towards people that live in the lower 48. As a matter of fact there is a town that exists on either side of the US/Canada border, people WERE free to walk across and visit neighbors, and in some cases relatives, not the case now. And the Canadians are building fences and gates in this community.

                    As you say and point out in a very short period of time the conservatives have used fear as their action plan.

                    Sounds familiar.

                    • 4 votes
                    #25.9 - Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:53 PM EST
                    Rick Basora

                    Hi Davetopper. I hope that you are enjoying a blessed day of Thanksgiving.

                    Last night, as I was perusing the thread, I came upon an interesting commentary of yours and I responded in post # 19.6. I'm curious with regard to your assessment and reaction.

                    • 3 votes
                    #25.10 - Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:59 PM EST
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